Training Quality

[XtremeT13]

Since I have been so out of touch with a lot of MMA stuff as of late. I'll ask this in the noob section:

 

So I know some time ago the training gains were changed to where you didn't have to train with an elite coach to get maximum gains. Say for example you were just starting something that was useless...you could essentially train with a coach that was like superb or whatever and get the same gains as if you were training with an elite coach. Is this still the case? If so, what are the exact details surrounding that?

[Kronix]

Everything you asked for can be read here: http://www.mmatycoon.info/index.php?title=Training_Changes_2011

[XtremeT13]

Ok... So, looking at the graph that shows what a coaches skill level needs to be for a fighter at a particular skill level would have to be under to get maximum training like training with a 150 elite coach would read like this:

 

if a fighter has a skill level of 1 and trains with a coach that has like 35 (or jump up to 40 to play it safe) he'll get max benefit gains like training with a 150 elite coach? This fighter then can get those same gains until his skill level that is being trained reaches say 9 or 10, at this point he would have to train with a coach that has at least a skill rating of 60 to continue to get maximum gains?

Now if I had a fighter join a gym with a coach at 100 skill rating I would be able to train a skill from a 1 skill rating until about a skill rating of 40 and get maximum gains the whole time like training with a 150 elite coach?

[Heri]

nice

[duphus]

Ok... So, looking at the graph that shows what a coaches skill level needs to be for a fighter at a particular skill level would have to be under to get maximum training like training with a 150 elite coach would read like this:

 

if a fighter has a skill level of 1 and trains with a coach that has like 35 (or jump up to 40 to play it safe) he'll get max benefit gains like training with a 150 elite coach? This fighter then can get those same gains until his skill level that is being trained reaches say 9 or 10, at this point he would have to train with a coach that has at least a skill rating of 60 to continue to get maximum gains?

Now if I had a fighter join a gym with a coach at 100 skill rating I would be able to train a skill from a 1 skill rating until about a skill rating of 40 and get maximum gains the whole time like training with a 150 elite coach?

 

yes, as long as you mean the "rained reaches say 9 or 10" is actual points with 10 points being where he pops to abysmal

 

This is also not accounting for coach sessions, meaning 1 on 1 is still better then 2/3 on 1

[Heri]

but I wonder about sparring sessions. how many fighters per session to earn ideal/max value for their skills?

please explain bout this:

Sparring Group Sizes

Sparring one on one with an elite fighter is great but it’s not as good as sparring with 4 elite fighters. We’ve introduced a sparring group size factor so that sparring in groups of less than 5 total (including your own fighter), is less effective. Sparring with just 1 other fighter of the same skill will be 12% less effective than sparring with 4 other fighters of the same skill. Example. Training with one 145/150 skill fighter, will now be the same as sparring with 4 128/150 fighters.

Training Group Sizes

The calculation for the effectiveness of group sizes in coached training has also been changed. Previously 1 on 1 training was massively more effective than training in a group of 2 or 3 but we’ve now redone that formula to make it more realistic.

The general idea of the new curve is that a coach can work with a group of 1-3 fighters quite easily, giving them top training. Once a group starts to get up to 4-5 you get a drop off, where his attention has to jump between pairs of fighters. We then we have a bit of a plateau from 6-8, as fighters are taught skills in detail and then left to work on them with training partners, however, as we get towards 10 fighters in a group, the instructor no longer has enough time to teach the techniques properly and we have another drop off in effectiveness until we reach 20 fighters in a group. Anything above 20 is the same effectiveness as 20 fighters per group.

[XtremeT13]

When you are sparring it is better to be in sessions with multiple fighters, rather than 1 on 1... in the past it was best to spar 1 on 1 with a fighter that was elite in something. So, managers would train their useless boxer with a wonderful or better yet elite boxer to boost their primary more quickly. But, now with the new methods you will get more benefits from sparring with 3 or more fighters (as long as their primary skills are still higher than your own fighters skills). of course I think you still get max gains if you train a useless fighter with an elite (4 or 5 star rated) fighter, the sparring has been geared more to help public gyms that have 5 or 10, 15, 20 fighters in a sparring session still be able to get max gains. I think it said in the wiki what the difference in average skill needs to be for a fighter to get max gains.