MasterLeader Posted December 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 I think "% of wins by finish" is pretty dumb actually. One of the guys who drafts a team and never plays again could win it. I like net finishes way more if we are hell bent on adding another category, but I dont think its necessary and I'd leave it like it was. That's irrelevant - if a guy manages one win then he'll lose camp value, do badly in funds ranking and lose record ranking, thus finishing near the bottom. A manager could end up with 20 wins, 12 of which are by finish and do well under "net finishes" despite only 60% wins being by finish, hence my original suggestion. You're just nit picking now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted December 24, 2017 Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 That's irrelevant - if a guy manages one win then he'll lose camp value, do badly in funds ranking and lose record ranking, thus finishing near the bottom. A manager could end up with 20 wins, 12 of which are by finish and do well under "net finishes" despite only 60% wins being by finish, hence my original suggestion. You're just nit picking now. Of course they'll finish at the bottom of nearly every category if they never add another fighter, but that only reinforces how dumb your % idea is. Someone who never adds a fighter after the draft has a shot at winning that category. That same manager could never win the net finishes category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted December 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2017 Finishing top of a category doesnt matter if you finish bottom of the others. Did you ignore the downside of net finishes as I mentioned in my previous post? Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted December 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2017 Right guys doesnt look like anyone else is signing up. Im going to firm the rules in a minute. For those of you who are keen to watch the draft order draw live, I have added a poll for potential draw times to maximise potential audience. Poll randomly deleted itself. Im thinking well do the draw on the evening of New Years Day given people wont be at work and likely to be rolling around at home. 21:30 GMT (13:30 PT) okay for everyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rei Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 That time should be fine for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1rstSaint Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Sounds good and now that I fucked my back up I will have plenty of time to scout fighters lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Right guys doesnt look like anyone else is signing up. Im going to firm the rules in a minute. For those of you who are keen to watch the draft order draw live, I have added a poll for potential draw times to maximise potential audience. Poll randomly deleted itself. Im thinking well do the draw on the evening of New Years Day given people wont be at work and likely to be rolling around at home. 21:30 GMT (13:30 PT) okay for everyone? Great ..... can't wait for the new league to start btw, u got my mail right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted December 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Great ..... can't wait for the new league to start btw, u got my mail right ? Got your email mate - arrangements sound reasonable 2 days until the draw! For those that cant view the live stream, it will be made available for 24h following the broadcast Any advice on how I should run the draw? Was thinking lay out every name on a piece of paper on a table, then fold them all individually shuffle them, put them in a bowl, mix the bowl up and pick names from 1 bowl and numbers (1-14) from the other bowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Finishing top of a category doesnt matter if you finish bottom of the others. Did you ignore the downside of net finishes as I mentioned in my previous post? Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? I cant even decipher what your downside of net finishes argument is. I appreciate you running the league because rory doesnt have the time to do it anymore, but I dont think you even understand how things will change with what you want to do. The scoring system we used previously was fine, I dont know why you are hell bent on screwing it up. Just run it however you want and we'll hope you dont fuck it up too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted December 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 I cant even decipher what your downside of net finishes argument is. I appreciate you running the league because rory doesnt have the time to do it anymore, but I dont think you even understand how things will change with what you want to do. The scoring system we used previously was fine, I dont know why you are hell bent on screwing it up. Just run it however you want and we'll hope you dont fuck it up too much. I’ve literally added one major change on the back of demand from other participants and consulted everyone to agree on a solution, kept things simple because there was nothing majorly wrong with how things were run last year just a few tweaks here and there. I’ve also agreed roles with Fallen Angel to ensure this is run properly and put procedures in place to make the draw fair. What’s your problem? What more do you want from me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 I’ve literally added one major change on the back of demand from other participants and consulted everyone to agree on a solution, kept things simple because there was nothing majorly wrong with how things were run last year just a few tweaks here and there. I’ve also agreed roles with Fallen Angel to ensure this is run properly and put procedures in place to make the draw fair. What’s your problem? What more do you want from me? How about you not try to run this like a dictatorship. % finishes is ridiculous and the only ones into it is you and fallenangel. I think this is good, it is a middle ground for those in favor and not in favor. Let's just make this the final change to the game. The way it was set up before is good - no need to change too much. I completely agree with you and the net finishes is a great idea/solution. Let's keep the funds stat and add the net finishes that seems like the best way to go. net finishes is a good idea ... Thats 4-2 in favor of net over %. Stop pretending you have some consensus to do as you like. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 Let's not start any drama, although I must agree with JLP with his point. Really appreciate you running this thing this year MasterL and I like how into it you are! But I must admit you have shot down a couple of ideas from JLP (came 2nd and now 1st in 2 seasons) and myself who brought this game to this forum. I couldn't understand the problem with net finishes either and it has been agreed by a majority as JLP showed. Let's just take it easy and go with net finishes as an additional scoring criteria and leave it at that - if it proves to be a bad idea somehow then we can scrap it next season I guess. Lookin forward to the draft... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted December 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 Alright I dont care either way, well go with net finishes then. And JLP - Everyone ignored my point about % wins so no one apart from you argued against it and in fact I figured people were arguing absolute (total) versus relative (net OR %), given the difference between relative options is insignificant. I didnt shoot down JLPs ideas, only 5 changes have been made and 1 of which is his point about dropping fighters on the back of losses which Ive implemented. 2 were made by Rozza during the year which Ive affirmed this year. Ive involved the people in every decision. I also suggested about 7 things in one post and only introduced the sharing win bonus for draws given that was positively acknowledged, so again hardly a dictatorship. I dont have to run this, I just did it because no one else put their name out there and Ive got a busy life so figured Id share the responsibility with 1 or 2 others. No reason the community cant run the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted December 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 Also - can someone confirm whether there is a limit on maximum number of fighters picked up during the draft, cant remember what we did last year but the rules dont seem to stipulate this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 Also - can someone confirm whether there is a limit on maximum number of fighters picked up during the draft, cant remember what we did last year but the rules dont seem to stipulate this. There wasn't, just a minimum number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted December 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 There wasn't, just a minimum number Okay cool Mustve been confusing two rules, so minimum of 4 and maximum of 20 (if all fighters signed cost $10,000) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted January 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Draw in 25 minutes! Gonna start getting things ready Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted January 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Apologies the draw is not until 21:30 GMT (13:30 PT). Recorded a live video for 5 mins then realised that we agreed on 21:30 and not 17:30 so i'll keep the arrangements as they are and do the draw at 21:30 like originally planned. Feel free to watch the video I just recorded although it's pretty dull (also i'm rubbish on camera) because I just introduce everything, then wait 5 mins and realise the planned time was 21:30 and end the stream. This video will be deleted in 4 hours just before the official draw. So 4 hours until the draw! Sorry about the confusion. EDIT: Just accidentally followed my friend so to save myself the embarassment of him potentially sharing the video i've made the profile private. Please follow the profile (MasterLeaderMMAT) if you want to see it (evidence i haven't fixed anything). In terms of the official draw, i'm thinking it may be a good idea to draw the numbers using www.random.org but on a live stream, while the participants can be drawn one at a time from a bowl. I would then film my computer screen then there's no room for manipulation and it's a very fair draw given it will be a live stream also. The new username where the official draw will come from = ML_MMA_Tycoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1rstSaint Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 When will the draft start, right after? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted January 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 When will the draft start, right after? No not until the rankings are updated on the back of the event which just happened. So probably on Wednesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1rstSaint Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Oh duh, that makes since. Looking forward to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted January 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Draw delayed - 21:40 gentlemen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted January 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Okay starting now Search ML_MMA_Tycoon on instagram, click on my avatar of a midget strongman & you should get the live stream UPDATE: Draw is now complete, went pretty smoothly, no one was online for the duration of the LIVE draw, however it is being uploaded as we speak to Instagram and will be available for 24 hours. For those that cant be bothered to watch it (its pretty long but tried to keep things semi-lively), here is the selection order: 1) RozzaD (lucky bugger) 2) NorthernNinjas 3) Fallen Angel 4) 1rstSaint 5) MasterLeader 6) Timqwe 7) Rei 8) Gonzasco 9) Humble 10) Aylib 11) Jacman 12) JLP 13) LeonStolz 14) TheyCallMeNeon 15) TheyCallMeNeon 16) LeonStolz 17) JLP 18) Jacman 19) Aylib 20) Humble 21) Gonzasco 22) Rei 23) Timqwe 24) Master Leader 25) 1rstSaint 26) Fallen Angel 27) NorthernNinjas 28) RozzaD 29) RozzaD Etc...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted January 1, 2018 Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Bet me and rei gonna frustrate eachoter by taking the others favourite pick just before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted January 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2018 Bet me and rei gonna frustrate eachoter by taking the others favourite pick just before Exciting times - were you guys after each other last year? Just a reminder - 8 hour time limit per selection, please send your next two picks to myself before going to sleep to speed up the process otherwise the draw will continue without you (post 8 hour limit) and you will make your selection upon your return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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