Defcon Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Are there any plans to allow grappling or BJJ orgs? Or something like them, perhaps an option to have fights with grappling or BJJ rules within an org, as with KT options? I also think a game-wide competition would be cool, even if it's a one-off or yearly thing. It sort of harkens back to the early days of MMA when you had guys like Gracie or Severn coming in with solid BJJ or Wrestling...I've had mixed success with guys who are really strong in a single discipline, but I am a new manager so take it with a grain of salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rac2 Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 we already had this conversation and the decision is that there will be no grappling only orgs and the TWGC would run a few times a year. The number is yet to be decided but based on this first experience I hope we get 4 times a year, maybe 1 time per game year, just like real life ADCC. I'm really enjoying TWGC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j666 Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 chuck opened one in london http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=3937 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyosullivan Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 I really don't see the point in them. There's no huge profits being made by anyone because TWGC isn't run by a user. There's no grappling orgs in real life so what's the need for them to be in the game? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j666 Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 cuz it's different. some people actually like it and want to do more of it. also, the game changes haven't fully kicked in to weed out some of the "all-arounders", thus making it viable for more "one-siders" to compete in actual mma orgs. so until then, kt and grapp orgs will continue to flourish. or should anyways. remember, just cuz u don't like it, or understand it, doesn't mean it's worthless. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Geez markyosullivan,i would like this especially if it would lock sliders so itd be no feae for your fighter,itd be more like a judo/submission contest.... this in my opinion is better than qfc orgs,but right now chuck has a monopoly,i think its cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelPenn Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I really don't see the point in them. There's no huge profits being made by anyone because TWGC isn't run by a user. There's no grappling orgs in real life so what's the need for them to be in the game? The point is some of us want them and we feel it would bring more fun to the game. This reason alone should be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHU Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Heres the link to the HBGG thread http://www.mmatycoon.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=39410 We're always looking for competitors and are even considering allowing GNP in the 265+ division just looking to generate enough interests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I really don't see the point in them. There's no huge profits being made by anyone because TWGC isn't run by a user. There's no grappling orgs in real life so what's the need for them to be in the game? So, Metamoris is what then? I thought its pure grappling promotion...check your facts first, Marky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thb Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 So, Metamoris is what then? I thought its pure grappling promotion...check your facts first, Marky you beat me to the punch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 So, Metamoris is what then? I thought its pure grappling promotion...check your facts first, Marky you beat me to the punch i mean we have the wgc and plenty other world grappling competitions set by orgs year round, i think marky was drunk at the time, dont mind him lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rac2 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Do you guys think having a grappling only set of rules would weaken the idea of a TWGC? Meaning would TWGC stop making sense if Mikes allows grappling only rules in regular orgs as he allows KT rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rac2 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 ^ wow my portuguenglish really showed in the post above... let me know if that aint clear and whatnot... not my first language Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Do you guys think having a grappling only set of rules would weaken the idea of a TWGC? Meaning would TWGC stop making sense if Mikes allows grappling only rules in regular orgs as he allows KT rules? it might actually,its kinda cool chuck has a monopoly,i would like rules locked though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilflet Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I really want locked rules- my fighter in chucks org has been on the receiving end of strikes in every single fight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theking04 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I really want locked rules- my fighter in chucks org has been on the receiving end of strikes in every single fight! yeah that would be a hard thing to get around really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rac2 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I really want locked rules- my fighter in chucks org has been on the receiving end of strikes in every single fight! yep same happened to me... as an enthusiast of the ground game, it sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHU Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Yeah, we've talked to Mike about this before. A TWGC rule set, but I don't think that is happening any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Yeah, we've talked to Mike about this before. A TWGC rule set, but I don't think that is happening any time soon. But we HAVE to make it only for HBGG. 1) Chuch deserves that, he is trustable guy and he put a lot of HIS OWN money as additional prizes for TWGC winners 2) We can't go with more ground orgs - that would kill TWGC. Let's make HBGG our own Metamoris Pro - one and only ground promotion in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rac2 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 But we HAVE to make it only for HBGG. 1) Chuch deserves that, he is trustable guy and he put a lot of HIS OWN money as additional prizes for TWGC winners 2) We can't go with more ground orgs - that would kill TWGC. Let's make HBGG our own Metamoris Pro - one and only ground promotion in the game. completely agree with 1. kind of disagree with 2. i neither think it would kill twgc (exclusive - who doesn't want to be THE twgc champ?.. prizes could help too) nor agree with letting a set of priviledge rules apply to a single user... this could create a dangerous precedent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Its not like rules apply to Chuck - we don't give him any kind of power. But more orgs would just water this idea down. I think TWGC was created and meant to be something special. Besides, rules would apply to HBGG not Chuck, orgs can be sold, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rac2 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 1) IMHO TWGC will still continue to be something special even if we allow grappling only orgs. i'd definitely want to compete, win and be a part of it... wouldn't you? 2) imagine the situation where my grappler sucks balls (p4p 10k+) and chuck's org reaches top10... would not make sense for him to hire my guy. also grapplers from new mgrs will normaly have no relevant ranks... when chuck's org develops rank wise, it's no hire for them too. so we're back to square one for those fighters/users unless we force chuck to hire them... not my idea of fairness since it would hurt his business. I think the only way to make this right is like we do with KT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 1) IMHO TWGC will still continue to be something special even if we allow grappling only orgs. i'd definitely want to compete, win and be a part of it... wouldn't you? 2) imagine the situation where my grappler sucks balls (p4p 10k+) and chuck's org reaches top10... would not make sense for him to hire my guy. also grapplers from new mgrs will normaly have no relevant ranks... when chuck's org develops rank wise, it's no hire for them too. so we're back to square one for those fighters/users unless we force chuck to hire them... not my idea of fairness since it would hurt his business. I think the only way to make this right is like we do with KT. Go same way as KT - and you will end up same as KT. How many KT orgs do we have? 1? 2? I will stick with my idea about it, mostly because I see how KT looks now. Deffy don't want to see grappling competition like that. On side note - one day grappling tourney could be nice sidetrack for TWGC - I mean, sign 8 guys and its fight after fight with some energy boost between them. That could be run more often - like QFCT - random weight class, city and division. Call it Tycoon Grappling Challenge or sth like that. Could be also fun thing to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rac2 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Go same way as KT - and you will end up same as KT. How many KT orgs do we have? 1? 2? I will stick with my idea about it, mostly because I see how KT looks now. Deffy don't want to see grappling competition like that. LOL this is so not the point. the point is why stop others from running a grappling only org - not whether or not something apart from MMA can exist here. I'll get back to the point in a minute but let me show your reasoning fails there too. did you even do minimal check before posting this? from top 10 KT orgs rank list - there are others: http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=3514 - 113 fighters signed http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=1479 - 119 http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=3550 - 103 http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=3764 - 84 http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=2954 - 108 http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=2341 - 169 http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=2904 - 30 http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=1709 - 101 so why even bring the number of KT orgs up to prove a point that a single grappling org is enough? I alone have 3 or 4 fighters I'd like to do grappling only. obviously this is not the main stream for the game so it is expected that MMA orgs are stronger than KT and grappling. however, from the day one, this was never my point. back to it: even if you thought there was only a single KT org, why the hell give a single user special priviledges? why stop others from having the option to run a similar org for weaker fighters and let everybody have fun? you didn't address this point of mine in your response. because that would weaken the idea of a TWGC? I honestly think no one will give up TWGC because they're part of a grappling only org. I am pretty sure all fighters signed to Chuck's org who are able to enter TWGC are going to participate. this is an outstanding event in the game: everybody who enjoys the ground game wants that exclusive belt and that trophy and all the glory that comes with winning it. this is also a point from my previous post you never addressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 LOL this is so not the point. the point is why stop others from running a grappling only org - not whether or not something apart from MMA can exist here. I'll get back to the point in a minute but let me show your reasoning fails there too. did you even do minimal check before posting this? from top 10 KT orgs rank list - there are others: http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=3514 - 113 fighters signed http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=1479 - 119 http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=3550 - 103 http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=3764 - 84 http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=2954 - 108 http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=2341 - 169 http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=2904 - 30 http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=1709 - 101 so why even bring the number of KT orgs up to prove a point that a single grappling org is enough? I alone have 3 or 4 fighters I'd like to do grappling only. obviously this is not the main stream for the game so it is expected that MMA orgs are stronger than KT and grappling. however, from the day one, this was never my point. back to it: even if you thought there was only a single KT org, why the hell give a single user special priviledges? why stop others from having the option to run a similar org for weaker fighters and let everybody have fun? you didn't address this point of mine in your response. because that would weaken the idea of a TWGC? I honestly think no one will give up TWGC because they're part of a grappling only org. I am pretty sure all fighters signed to Chuck's org who are able to enter TWGC are going to participate. this is an outstanding event in the game: everybody who enjoys the ground game wants that exclusive belt and that trophy and all the glory that comes with winning it. this is also a point from my previous post you never addressed. You keep saying "we can't give single player a privileges...but its not about user - its about org. So here you are wrong, same as Im with number of KT orgs. It's just my point of view, not like Im trying to impose my will on you. Im just huuuuge grappling fan and from my POV creating more grappling orgs wouldn't be good. But thats just my irrelevant opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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