rjs2442 Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 Moses Diggs - Hiddens Report. Intelligence: 68/150. Heart: 71/150. Chin: 107/150. Injury Proneness: 49/150. Self Confidence: 127/150. Cuts: 24/150. Fast Learner: 142/150. Natural KO: 145/150. Average: 91.6/150. Rank: 52,019 out of 189,487 (top 27%) Experience: 147/150. Potential: 117/123. (Min 96). Age Drop Off: 30 years. Days of Cuts: 138 (Rank: 721) Days of Injuries: 260 (Rank: 2,877) NOTES: Lack of heart and IQ can explain a lot of Womba losses lol... Question I am pondering is the low IQ of Womba as well (60/150) brings into question to a degree the theory of requiring high IQ on the ground. Based on Womba's 19 Career sub victories, that makes it seem more like a myth, or was that more due to sliders then hiddens? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpv Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 Edogawa Conan - Hiddens Report.Intelligence: 1/150.Heart: 144/150.Chin: 71/150.Injury Proneness: 115/150.Self Confidence: 138/150.Cuts: 81/150.Fast Learner: 105/150.Natural KO: 73/150.Average: 91.0/150. Rank: 54,867 out of 189,499 (top 29%)Experience: 147/150.Potential: 120/123. (Min 96).Age Drop Off: 28 years.Days of Cuts: 2 (Rank: 52,163)Days of Injuries: 203 (Rank: 4,583) This guy was one of my best ground fighter in the game and he has 1/150 of intelligence. I don't know anything anymore. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackmartin11 Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 Intelligence: 150/150. Heart: 71/150. Chin: 136/150. Injury Proneness: 43/150. Self Confidence: 100/150. Cuts: 33/150. Fast Learner: 140/150. Natural KO: 127/150. Average: 100.0/150. Rank: 22,289 out of 189,499 (top 12%) Experience: 147/150. Potential: 112/123. (Min 96). Age Drop Off: 29 years. Days of Cuts: 126 (Rank: 904) Days of Injuries: 205 (Rank: 4,515) My Knockout King 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 Question I am pondering is the low IQ of Womba as well (60/150) brings into question to a degree the theory of requiring high IQ on the ground. Based on Womba's 19 Career sub victories, that makes it seem more like a myth, or was that more due to sliders then hiddens? I think opponents IQ and heart impact submission results more than the fighter itself. Of course sliders go into play. Diggs was a wrestler GNP type. GNP plays into submission specialist as long as they aren't subbing spams, gassing out, and get mounted early. Lot of RNG takes place o the ground. It isn't close to as absolute as the stand up engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjs2442 Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 Another point to look into, is IQ directly related to the Intelligence hidden? I have a feeling they are not 1 to 1 but not certain. This is based on results previous combined with the new Hidden reveal ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylib Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 Another point to look into, is IQ directly related to the Intelligence hidden? I have a feeling they are not 1 to 1 but not certain. This is based on results previous combined with the new Hidden reveal ability. I was under impression that intelligence hidden and IQ results (range) are relative to one another, but yeah, like you've mentioned, some fighters appear to show quite the gap between the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsieur.Camara Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 Cannot wait to see Chris Steve`s hiddens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 Another point to look into, is IQ directly related to the Intelligence hidden? I have a feeling they are not 1 to 1 but not certain. This is based on results previous combined with the new Hidden reveal ability. IQ is 100% related to Intelligence hidden and nothing else. There's a minimum and maximum score for IQ test. I'm guessing it's somewhere between 80 and 150. IQ test are also not entirely accurate. I think there's a 10 point range of inaccuracy. I received results of 116 and 126 for the same fighter. These are the IQ test results for my retired fighters (and a few active fighters). I think it's pretty obvious that IQ test and intelligence are the only two things tied together. Pluto Palhares 146 Taz Rutten 118 Ben Stone 144 Samor Kanen93 Patrick McWhiskey 121 Musashi Kato 108 Tolonen 111 Kajun Puno 99 Abe Donowitz 141 Malakai Semerkhet 115 Don Marciano 116 Ozzy McKane 101 Kazuka Fuujin 87 Tomas Marley 97 Orlando Diggs 87 Jack Stone 89 Cristian Tavares 120 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjs2442 Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 I did not check all but I looked at 2 of your guys, Palhares IQ 146 and Intelligence 144 which makes sense however Puno had an IQ of 99 but only 39 for intelligence? I had a similar finding with one of my guys, though not as big a gap where my IQ was 124 but Intelligence came back as 99. Thats what had me confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 I did not check all but I looked at 2 of your guys, Palhares IQ 146 and Intelligence 144 which makes sense however Puno had an IQ of 99 but only 39 for intelligence? I had a similar finding with one of my guys, though not as big a gap where my IQ was 124 but Intelligence came back as 99. Thats what had me confused If the minimum on an IQ test is 80... and the range for inaccuracy is 10 points... it's not impossible to say that Puno could of scored an 89 on an IQ test had he taken multiple. IQ test minimum is, I'm pretty sure, around the 80 marker. I think the max is 149 or 150. IQ numbers cover a large spread of Intelligence hidden. 150 points of Intelligence hidden gets crammed into 70 (80-150?) points of IQ test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 One question I would want to ask... If 150 injury proneness means most likely to get injured, and the rolls are 1 to 150... if you select never gets injured does it add 30 points to injury proneness or subtract 30 points from Injury Proneness? Or is the injury hidden just represented backwards in the hiddens result? Since when you select hiddens you add 30 points to that hidden, I think that's a good question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HareRumpler Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 One question I would want to ask... If 150 injury proneness means most likely to get injured, and the rolls are 1 to 150... if you select never gets injured does it add 30 points to injury proneness or subtract 30 points from Injury Proneness? Or is the injury hidden just represented backwards in the hiddens result? Since when you select hiddens you add 30 points to that hidden, I think that's a good question. Darn good question to make sure that the logic used is actually not turning out to be a double whammy negative if it's not calculating correctly by chance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poraan Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 One question I would want to ask... If 150 injury proneness means most likely to get injured, and the rolls are 1 to 150... if you select never gets injured does it add 30 points to injury proneness or subtract 30 points from Injury Proneness? Or is the injury hidden just represented backwards in the hiddens result? Since when you select hiddens you add 30 points to that hidden, I think that's a good question. So injury proness also messes up total hiddens, because high is actually low Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 So injury proness also messes up total hiddens, because high is actually low That would be a good question as well... it could just be represented backwards, coded wrong, or exactly how it appears - bug. If it's bugged and gets changed, it'll be annoying going back and fixing my original post lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwang Posted January 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 Here are my two retired boys: Ras Li Judah Intelligence: 133/150. Heart: 140/150. Chin: 46/150. Injury Proneness: 119/150. Self Confidence: 120/150. Cuts: 44/150. Fast Learner: 126/150. Natural KO: 123/150. Average: 106.4/150. Rank: 9,323 out of 189,575 (top 5%) Experience: 147/150. Potential: 118/123. (Min 96). Age Drop Off: 30 years. Days of Cuts: 31 (Rank: 7,662) Days of Injuries: 373 (Rank: 1,062) Popped heavy hands. Had a massive heart. Whenever he was rocked (fairly often) he would get deadly dangerous. http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=267612 Zeus Obliteratii Intelligence: 31/150. Heart: 106/150. Chin: 142/150. Injury Proneness: 10/150. Self Confidence: 129/150. Cuts: 18/150. Fast Learner: 148/150. Natural KO: 142/150. Average: 90.8/150. Rank: 55,992 out of 189,575 (top 30%) Experience: 147/150. Potential: 118/123. (Min 96). Age Drop Off: 33 years. Days of Cuts: 233 (Rank: 178) Days of Injuries: 43 (Rank: 29,164) Great fighter, but chin of paper. I think he was rarely injured too, so that means the higher the cuts hidden the better (like its resistance to cuts), and the lower the injury-proneness hidden the better. http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=232323 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 Here are my two retired boys: Ras Li Judah Intelligence: 133/150. Heart: 140/150. Chin: 46/150. Injury Proneness: 119/150. Self Confidence: 120/150. Cuts: 44/150. Fast Learner: 126/150. Natural KO: 123/150. Average: 106.4/150. Rank: 9,323 out of 189,575 (top 5%) Experience: 147/150. Potential: 118/123. (Min 96). Age Drop Off: 30 years. Days of Cuts: 31 (Rank: 7,662) Days of Injuries: 373 (Rank: 1,062) Popped heavy hands. Had a massive heart. Whenever he was rocked (fairly often) he would get deadly dangerous. http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=267612 Zeus Obliteratii Intelligence: 31/150. Heart: 106/150. Chin: 142/150. Injury Proneness: 10/150. Self Confidence: 129/150. Cuts: 18/150. Fast Learner: 148/150. Natural KO: 142/150. Average: 90.8/150. Rank: 55,992 out of 189,575 (top 30%) Experience: 147/150. Potential: 118/123. (Min 96). Age Drop Off: 33 years. Days of Cuts: 233 (Rank: 178) Days of Injuries: 43 (Rank: 29,164) Great fighter, but chin of paper. I think he was rarely injured too, so that means the higher the cuts hidden the better (like its resistance to cuts), and the lower the injury-proneness hidden the better. http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=232323 Ras is similar to my boy Ben Stone. By far one of my favorite fighters to watch in pbp of all time. Getting rocked and knocked around to come back and fuck up your opponent on a consistent basis one of the more gratifying tycoon experiences possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 Ras is similar to my boy Ben Stone. By far one of my favorite fighters to watch in pbp of all time. Getting rocked and knocked around to come back and fuck up your opponent on a consistent basis one of the more gratifying tycoon experiences possible. Talking about a Stone, Jack Stone must have pretty good KO power hidden. He's the only guy who managed to knock out (on the counter) my guy Bomb.Com. Bomb had 150/150 chin when I just checked the hiddens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 Talking about a Stone, Jack Stone must have pretty good KO power hidden. He's the only guy who managed to knock out (on the counter) my guy Bomb.Com. Bomb had 150/150 chin when I just checked the hiddens. What was Com's heart? But yeah, Jack is the bastard child of Ben Stone without the IQ. Jack is definitely a dip shit with heavy hands and I suspect big heart and slightly better chin than Ben. Idk if Jack's ever been rocked or knocked down, and I know his chin isn't great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMATycoon Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 One question I would want to ask... If 150 injury proneness means most likely to get injured, and the rolls are 1 to 150... if you select never gets injured does it add 30 points to injury proneness or subtract 30 points from Injury Proneness? Or is the injury hidden just represented backwards in the hiddens result? Since when you select hiddens you add 30 points to that hidden, I think that's a good question. I didn't check but I'm 99.9% sure that higher is better. It's 12 years since it was programmed so I'll check the fight engine and if it's not, i'll update / let you guys know. There's a minimum and maximum score for IQ test. I'm guessing it's somewhere between 80 and 150. IQ test are also not entirely accurate. I think there's a 10 point range of inaccuracy. I received results of 116 and 126 for the same fighter. These are the IQ test results for my retired fighters (and a few active fighters). I think it's pretty obvious that IQ test and intelligence are the only two things tied together. Right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackmartin11 Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 I didn't check but I'm 99.9% sure that higher is better. It's 12 years since it was programmed so I'll check the fight engine and if it's not, i'll update / let you guys know. Right. I know it's only been like 3 days since I asked, but any update on that Title Fight Box Click Glitch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsieur.Camara Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 I didn't check but I'm 99.9% sure that higher is better. It's 12 years since it was programmed so I'll check the fight engine and if it's not, i'll update / let you guys know. Right. Lots of good info itt thanks for the updates Mike. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 Question I am pondering is the low IQ of Womba as well (60/150) brings into question to a degree the theory of requiring high IQ on the ground. Based on Womba's 19 Career sub victories, that makes it seem more like a myth, or was that more due to sliders then hiddens? Womba also had way higher JJ and subs than most fighters, both of which are a factor in defending subs IIRC. As for my fighters, the only one with decently high hiddens was this guy, some of the others were surprisingly low -- including my top fighter ever Malietoa Feti (152801) who got 70% of his wins by KO despite only 50 in Natural KO -- something that has me wondering about the effect of weight on KO power being non-linear. Dan Price 200010 - Hiddens Report. Intelligence: 36/150. Heart: 124/150. Chin: 127/150. Injury Proneness: 120/150. Self Confidence: 69/150. Cuts: 130/150. Fast Learner: 122/150. Natural KO: 109/150. Average: 104.6/150. Rank: 11,895 out of 189,590 (top 6%) Experience: 147/150. Potential: 116/123. (Min 96). Age Drop Off: 29 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 What was Com's heart? But yeah, Jack is the bastard child of Ben Stone without the IQ. Jack is definitely a dip shit with heavy hands and I suspect big heart and slightly better chin than Ben. Idk if Jack's ever been rocked or knocked down, and I know his chin isn't great. It was 82 so not the best but if I recall correctly possible lack of heart wasn't really ever a visible problem. I think the only other time he got rocked was a previous fight against once again Jack Stone but he fought through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 Scotty Bennet - Hiddens Report.Intelligence: 6/150.Heart: 128/150.Chin: 77/150.Injury Proneness: 149/150.Self Confidence: 115/150.Cuts: 83/150.Fast Learner: 145/150.Natural KO: 149/150.Average: 106.5/150. Rank: 9,220 out of 189,617 (top 5%)Experience: 147/150.Potential: 118/123. (Min 96).Age Drop Off: 35 years.Days of Cuts: 12 (Rank: 21,387)Days of Injuries: 905 (Rank: 2) Bennet's chin was actually better then I thought. I knew he was dumb, but that low of a # is a little shocking Pat McDermot - Hiddens Report.Intelligence: 130/150.Heart: 97/150.Chin: 128/150.Injury Proneness: 133/150.Self Confidence: 33/150.Cuts: 95/150.Fast Learner: 143/150.Natural KO: 150/150.Average: 113.6/150. Rank: 2,549 out of 189,617 (top 1%)Experience: 147/150.Potential: 119/123. (Min 96).Age Drop Off: 31 years.Days of Cuts: 1 (Rank: 74,849)Days of Injuries: 531 (Rank: 218) Flat out monster. Most of his big name fights happened after his low peak age of 31. Lorne Malvo - Hiddens Report.Intelligence: 118/150.Heart: 105/150.Chin: 140/150.Injury Proneness: 82/150.Self Confidence: 115/150.Cuts: 124/150.Fast Learner: 130/150.Natural KO: 97/150.Average: 113.9/150. Rank: 2,416 out of 189,617 (top 1%)Experience: 147/150.Potential: 118/123. (Min 96).Age Drop Off: 30 years.Days of Cuts: 0 (Rank: 99,350)Days of Injuries: 236 (Rank: 3,470) Loved this guy and he had some great hiddens. I wish I would have had him when i had more interest in the game rather then the tail end of my tycoon career. Henry Chinaski - Hiddens Report.Intelligence: 92/150.Heart: 62/150.Chin: 127/150.Injury Proneness: 127/150.Self Confidence: 89/150.Cuts: 108/150.Fast Learner: 116/150.Natural KO: 111/150.Average: 104.0/150. Rank: 13,009 out of 189,617 (top 7%)Experience: 147/150.Potential: 118/123. (Min 96).Age Drop Off: 34 years.Days of Cuts: 0 (Rank: 188,093)Days of Injuries: 544 (Rank: 187) I thought he would have been higher, especially KO power. Dennis Wise - Hiddens Report.Intelligence: 56/150.Heart: 63/150.Chin: 98/150.Injury Proneness: 84/150.Self Confidence: 79/150.Cuts: 122/150.Fast Learner: 134/150.Natural KO: 134/150.Average: 96.3/150. Rank: 33,481 out of 189,617 (top 18%)Experience: 147/150.Potential: 120/123. (Min 96).Age Drop Off: 34 years.Days of Cuts: 0 (Rank: 182,174)Days of Injuries: 418 (Rank: 692) Way lower then expected. KO power was always the most important stat. Art Vandalay - Hiddens Report.Intelligence: 19/150.Heart: 130/150.Chin: 87/150.Injury Proneness: 135/150.Self Confidence: 71/150.Cuts: 68/150.Fast Learner: 148/150.Natural KO: 135/150.Average: 99.1/150. Rank: 24,694 out of 189,617 (top 13%)Experience: 147/150.Potential: 117/123. (Min 96).Age Drop Off: 31 years.Days of Cuts: 37 (Rank: 6,150)Days of Injuries: 398 (Rank: 849) About what I expected. Mediocre hiddens with heart and power. Striking Sparbot (Garson DeBramalo) - Hiddens Report.Intelligence: 27/150.Heart: 75/150.Chin: 148/150.Injury Proneness: 89/150.Self Confidence: 126/150.Cuts: 69/150.Fast Learner: 115/150.Natural KO: 111/150.Average: 95.0/150. Rank: 38,300 out of 189,617 (top 20%)Experience: 147/150.Potential: 117/123. (Min 96).Age Drop Off: 35 years.Days of Cuts: 59 (Rank: 3,278)Days of Injuries: 560 (Rank: 155) That chin carried him through HW and SHW fights. Otherwise he was pretty mediocre. Roberto Insigne (Stan Van Gundy) - Hiddens Report.Intelligence: 121/150.Heart: 137/150.Chin: 149/150.Injury Proneness: 113/150.Self Confidence: 80/150.Cuts: 109/150.Fast Learner: 117/150.Natural KO: 111/150.Average: 117.1/150. Rank: 1,210 out of 189,617 (top 1%)Experience: 147/150.Potential: 119/123. (Min 96).Age Drop Off: 34 years.Days of Cuts: 1 (Rank: 78,473)Days of Injuries: 555 (Rank: 164) I knew theyd be good, but thats kind of shocking. I definitely thought the confidence and ko power would have been lower. That was my excuse for his disappointing career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyM5 Posted January 18, 2020 Report Share Posted January 18, 2020 Smokudju Womba - Hiddens Report.Intelligence: 60/150.Heart: 94/150.Chin: 133/150.Injury Proneness: 79/150.Self Confidence: 143/150.Cuts: 121/150.Fast Learner: 139/150.Natural KO: 135/150.Average: 113.0/150. Rank: 2,872 out of 189,624 (top 2%)Experience: 147/150.Potential: 117/123. (Min 96).Age Drop Off: 35 years.Days of Cuts: 1 (Rank: 74,173)Days of Injuries: 404 (Rank: 791) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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