Weight Class Dilemma

[TMT]

This is a noob question but, I think it will get quickest and best responses in this thread.

 

If my fighter weighs between 171lbs - 185lbs what is the best weight class to fight at? 170lbs or 185lbs and why (Just so I can better understand) - Thanks

[BlakePhoenix]

Not being a smartass, but . . it depends. Not at all a helpful answer on its own, so:

Is your fighter a striker or a grappler?

 

If he's a grappler with no standup you may want to have him fight at 185. This is so he will be faster than his opponents, which plays a large factor in getting takedowns.

 

If he's a striker, you want him to be more powerful than his opponents, so it would be better for him to fight at 170.

 

no, i mean screw you, you posted this in the wrong place. You need to be banned. ;-)

[Freddie]

Id go 185 since hes sleaker for the weight class he should be faster by a bit. 170 you would have trouble making weight.

[TMT]

Not being a smartass, but . . it depends. Not at all a helpful answer on its own, so:

Is your fighter a striker or a grappler?

 

If he's a grappler with no standup you may want to have him fight at 185. This is so he will be faster than his opponents, which plays a large factor in getting takedowns.

 

If he's a striker, you want him to be more powerful than his opponents, so it would be better for him to fight at 170.

 

no, i mean screw you, you posted this in the wrong place. You need to be banned. ;-)

Thanks for your response

[TMT]

Id go 185 since hes sleaker for the weight class he should be faster by a bit. 170 you would have trouble making weight.

 

I thought about the making weight piece also, but the cutting weight chart in the user help guide says max weight for 170 weight class is 187 or did I misunderstand?

[BlueFalcon]

When I create my fighters I create them slightly above the minimum weight. For example Arthur Lawrence weighs 177lbs because he is a striker and I want him to hit hard. I fight him in the 170lb division.

[BlueFalcon]

 

I thought about the making weight piece also, but the cutting weight chart in the user help guide says max weight for 170 weight class is 187 or did I misunderstand?

 

You can use supplements to lower your base weight.

[TMT]

When I create my fighters I create them slightly above the minimum weight. For example Arthur Lawrence weighs 177lbs because he is a striker and I want him to hit hard. I fight him in the 170lb division.

 

Thanks

[BlakePhoenix]

I probably wouldn't have a 170lb fighter walk around at more than 182, personally. And I don't like ANY fighter being underweight, even if they are a grappler, so I would never have fighters who weigh 183 or 184 unless they have 14 or better cardio and can easily cut to 170.

[TMT]

I probably wouldn't have a 170lb fighter walk around at more than 182, personally. And I don't like ANY fighter being underweight, even if they are a grappler, so I would never have fighters who weigh 183 or 184 unless they have 14 or better cardio and can easily cut to 170.

 

Ok so just so I am sure I understand correctly, 170 class you would not want to weigh more then 182. any more they could possibly not make weight? So that leads me to believe in the user guide that fight weight of 170 can have max weight at 187 and still be good. Is this outdated or I'm misunderstanding?

[BlakePhoenix]

I think in order to make weight cutting from 187 to 170 you have to have 15 conditioning and be at 100% energy - so it's possible, but easy to mess up. so for this same reason, whatever the weight class, the max weight I would do is 5 lbs under what the wiki says is the max.

[TMT]

I think in order to make weight cutting from 187 to 170 you have to have 15 conditioning and be at 100% energy - so it's possible, but easy to mess up. so for this same reason, whatever the weight class, the max weight I would do is 5 lbs under what the wiki says is the max.

 

I understand.... - Thanks

[Rain]

What I do is this - I make fighter's natural weight exaclty how his limit should be. For example - If I want a Middleweight, I make him 185, Featherweight - 145 and so on. From what I've witnessed, it doesn't matter if you're a striker or a grappler, you need to be faster.

 

Grappler - faster means that you'll land takedowns easier AND it will be easier to counter slower (heavier, less speed having) fighter. Counter takedowns will work well.

 

Striker - again, counters. If you're faster, you'll get countered fewer times, and you'll be able to counter your slower opponent's much more often. If you want power, even being slimmer helps, because counters are much more powerful than ordinary strikes - a legit counter head kick rocks your opponent 60 of the time (depends on opponents chin, your ko power and strenght (if head kick also flexibility)).

 

I have an examples of my fighter that is a striker and worked well with counters.

 

Roger Pott (has 15 speed)

http://mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=787130

[ValentinasAss]

What I do is this - I make fighter's natural weight exaclty how his limit should be. For example - If I want a Middleweight, I make him 185, Featherweight - 145 and so on. From what I've witnessed, it doesn't matter if you're a striker or a grappler, you need to be faster.

 

Grappler - faster means that you'll land takedowns easier AND it will be easier to counter slower (heavier, less speed having) fighter. Counter takedowns will work well.

 

Striker - again, counters. If you're faster, you'll get countered fewer times, and you'll be able to counter your slower opponent's much more often. If you want power, even being slimmer helps, because counters are much more powerful than ordinary strikes - a legit counter head kick rocks your opponent 60 of the time (depends on opponents chin, your ko power and strenght (if head kick also flexibility)).

 

I have an examples of my fighter that is a striker and worked well with counters.

 

Roger Pott (has 15 speed)

http://mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=787130

Roger Pott is 19 pounds over his weight class and your most successful fighter Ahsan Hamed is a featherweight who is 10 pounds over his weight class, so no you don't make your fighters natural weight exactly at the limit. Why are you lying?

[Guest]

I can personally attest that, at the lower skill levels, weight matters less than skills, hiddens, and physicals. When you get up to the higher ranges, when more things are equal in skills, size has more of an impact than at the lower levels.

[GiankaBonghi]

Not being a smartass, but . . it depends. Not at all a helpful answer on its own, so:

Is your fighter a striker or a grappler?

 

If he's a grappler with no standup you may want to have him fight at 185. This is so he will be faster than his opponents, which plays a large factor in getting takedowns.

 

If he's a striker, you want him to be more powerful than his opponents, so it would be better for him to fight at 170.

 

no, i mean screw you, you posted this in the wrong place. You need to be banned. ;-)

Yes and no...at 170lbs you find more grappler specialists....if he is a striker better if he go with 185lbs, there he will find less grappling nutters and the ridicolous never-miss ground n pound.