Trump2020 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 I dont want to be rude or anything but why people find this stuff normal? I dont understand why we should promote something like that. The guy is actually ill and he should not be promoted as something normal he should be doing some sort of therapy or being in hospital not ding these freak shows. We all understand this will not cure anyone with any illness and not it will make their life better it will just put them more on spot showing that for been different you can get something out of it when in really its not true and by any means necessary you should not promote if something is wrong with you but keep doing the stuff that keeps you on your base. In this care what they guy will get out of this? Nothing. And what other people like him will get out of this? Nothing. They will just keep doing nothing to improve their life but ask for favors just because they are different and there is nothing positive to it. And I am not saying these people are doing anything. There a good example I always say to people about stuff that you might do in good will but in the end we all know its nothing good at the end of the day. Where I am from there are a lot of homeless cats running around and we all understand they dont have the best life on the streets same as time to time they could hurt us in ways that they can get sick and spread that and overall they can infect other animals. But we all know why these cats are there and that reason is because old people keep feeding them. We all understand it would be better if these cats would not be there but as long as people are keeping feeding them they will never go anywhere and you have to ask yourself would it not be better if one generation of them would go and there would not suffer for generators of generators of street cats? Of course it would be but people keep putting them in these situations just because they are naive and kind towards these animals but at the end of the day what ever they are doing will just produce more and more of unheatly street cats. Same as goes for the imigrants in EU who come where with nothing and we blame them for stealing raping and murdering but lets be real if you where put in Africa and you had nothing to eat you would also rob someone or something to get something to eat so you dont die of starvation. And who is to blame in these situations? Not the people who are in bad positions but people who put them there and that is the goverment who keep allowing these people in and becaues of that keep them and us in bad position when really they life far away in hills and have nothing to worry about. Same in this this situation the guy is put in you cant blame him but why others make a freak show promoting something that is not good in any way is beyond me. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rei Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 You should be happy, you managed to tap out Diego Sanchez! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itakebrides Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 You should be happy, you managed to tap out Diego Sanchez! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 The unintentional irony here is awesome: And what other people like him will get out of this? Nothing. They will just keep doing nothing to improve their life but ask for favors just because they are different and there is nothing positive to it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump2020 Posted December 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 You really think this is subject to laugh at? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpierrecanada Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 You are the subject to laugh at humors... I couldnt bare to read past your second paragraph you're so insane. You must have no heart dude. People with down syndrome aren't freak shows you disrespectful fuck. He is a human being with feelings and a dream like everyone else. WAR ISAAC AND DIEGO! True class, amazing stuff right there. He had the time of his life and he will never forget that moment when he got to meet and fight his idol. Mad props to Diego Sanchez. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump2020 Posted December 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 You are the subject to laugh at humors... I couldnt bare to read past your second paragraph you're so insane. You must have no heart dude. People with down syndrome aren't freak shows you disrespectful fuck. He is a human being with feelings and a dream like everyone else. WAR ISAAC AND DIEGO! True class, amazing stuff right there. He had the time of his life and he will never forget that moment when he got to meet and fight his idol. Mad props to Diego Sanchez. By freak show I didnt mean nothing bad about the other guy thats just term of use. We call freak shows fights where two fighters fight who are not on the same level of skill. My point on this was if this gives any benefits to the guy? If it will really improve his life in good way? We understand this was great day from him but after this he will not be treated like that and he will suffer from it badly. Thats just my point I have when people have idols they follow and look up to you have to understand they are the same people as we are just that they do different stuff. Why would I have autograft or picture of any fighter? He is the same human bean as I am and when people are put in these spots they are put as something special when they are clearly not and once they find it out in this case for that other guy it will be a hard time to swallow it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenlow73 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Was this like Make-A-Wish or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump2020 Posted December 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Was this like Make-A-Wish or something? As the report says they guy is actually training at JackWink MMA so it comes from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonStolz Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 From what I've read, apparently Isaac went to Jackson Wink MMA one day and asked if he could watch the fighters trained, since we was a huge fan of many of the fighters who trained there. Diego took a liking to him and asked him to join him in training and then their friendship took off. Diego has said on his twitter that he wants Isaac to be heathy because many people who suffer from down syndrome that don't live past their 45s-50s and Diego hopes that having him train will help expand his life expectancy, and this "fight" was just a way to have him work harder at the gym because it gave him incentive. So, how will this help his life? If he continues to train and stay healthy he has a better chance to live longer, which I think is pretty helpful. And what's wrong with having an idol? Yes, in the grand scheme of thing everybody is the same, we all the same organs and we need air, but we look up to people because they inspire us. People look up to Ghandi and Mother Teresa not because they're superhuman but because of their beliefs and their actions people become inspired and wanted to better themselves, because like you said, they're just like us so why can't we be like them? I think Diego did a great thing for this man, and hopefully he stays healthy and continues to better himself. And buddy, look, he has a mental HANDICAP. Their are probably many things he just can't do by himself, so there isn't anything wrong with helping him or boosting his confidence or giving him a moment like that. A lot of people can't survive by themselves, so that's why charities exist so that people can still enjoy life even if they have a crippling or handicapping disease. So what if he needs favors? When his options are either ask somebody for help or try to better yourself even though it could be phisically or metally impossible, I don't see the issue with people like him asking for favors. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump2020 Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 You know how I could reply to your post? And I cant say its a bad post to be fair you have solid point but down the line something for me just aint right there. I was reading a news paper once and they did describe why you would never give huge amounts of for example oranges to a country who has suffered some sort of disaster and they are in need of help. If you give that country these oranges there will be no need to produce them for that period of time and what will happen to the land and companies that own orange fields? Thats right they will bankrupt and in the end of the day the disaster will just be bigger than it was you need to let people be who they are and be themself and fight their own problems because of you help them you put them in bigger disadvantage at the end of the day. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpierrecanada Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 You make zero sense humors LOL it's painful to read. You're a cold human being. I've always tried to like you but damn this shit you spew is actually retarded. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump2020 Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 You make zero sense humors LOL it's painful to read. Where I did make zero sense? I am just saying the guy now as you said probably is yeah on hill heals but once he is back home all that will break and he will suffer even more as he did when he wasnt there. Thats like some one who is very good at something and then he is left behind what they usually do? They get in deep depression because they know they will never be back there and something for them has been ruined. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump2020 Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 You're a cold human being. I've always tried to like you but damn this shit you spew is actually retarded. You are getting me wrong I am actually supporting these sort of people but I just think actions like these just make their situation even worse. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpierrecanada Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 So therefore you're saying no one should go and try to reach a goal because eventually they will not be as good as they used to be or reach that goal again and they will fall into a depression.... You're trolling, I'm not discussing this anymore LOL good job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump2020 Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 So therefore you're saying no one should go and try to reach a goal because eventually they will not be as good as they used to be or reach that goal again and they will fall into a depression.... You're trolling, I'm not discussing this anymore LOL good job. What goals are we talking here about? The guy wants to be a professional fighter? He wants to be put out there like a animal in circus for everyone to watch and make a laugh at it? His goals is the same goals as we have and thats to be normal human bean and that is to have a family have a job and have a normal life where nothing of theses sort of circus type of actions are not happening. They are putting him out there giving him false security and celebrating like they did something good where on the other hand they could treat him like any other person and he would be more happier about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpierrecanada Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Isaac will remember this moment for the rest of his life and he will always smile when he looks back on the day he got to fight his Idol in my favorite sport in front of tons of roaring fans screaming his name. He will tell that story to everyone with a smile on his face for the rest of his life, get over it humors. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpierrecanada Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 You are actually retarded or have gone full blown troll mode Humors, good job, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump2020 Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 What is there to be trolling about? I am just saying how I feel about stuff like that it seems like you cant have different opinions in any subject in this game. Look at the situation on the other hand if you had a sick child home who had one of these sort of syndromes at the dinner table you would always give him better place to sit at just because he is not like any other of us? And what you think the kid would like more? Hard to say of course but I think they would prefer if you acter to them like they are same as you and treat them the same way as you not give them something they dont deserve just because they are different that will never motivate them and make them improve anything. We should treat people like that the same as we treat any other one and that is the only way that will help them in their day to day life. There is no need to make a show or a situation out of anything like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonStolz Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Unibjorn, I kind of see where you're coming from, but you're compairing apples to oranges. Yes, a country that has suffered a tragedy doesn't need to be given charity forever, because like you said, if they constantly get free food and don't use their own resouces many farmers or companies will go out of business and the economy will suffer, but what if they don't have any resources? What if they don't have anything and can't continue by themselves? Imagine if you were born with no use of your legs, and now imagine that there wasn't any handicap parking spots or elevators, and imagine how much harder your life will be. Yes, it shows that you're different when you park in a handicap spot, but does that matter? We give people with handicaps help because their lives are hard enough and that they might never be able to survive by themselves. And you seem to think that what Diego did somehow demeans Isaac, but that's not true. Diego gave him purpose to train and stay healthy, and Diego awarded him with that "fight" for his work. Yes, Isaac could never be a real fighter, but we're celebrating the fact that Diego gave him what it feels to be a fighter and what it's like to win and gave him that moment for him to remember forever. Without Diego's charity, yeah, he never would have had that purpose and moment, but is that really a bad thing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump2020 Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Well if we talk about countries I would say helping them with anything seems never be the best way for anything. I dont know its because countries help them to get benefits for them but if we look at what is happening all around the world there are two scenarios of these things go in wrong hands or at the end of the day you keep influence on the state after that and its never good for regular people. So I would say the most little help just to keep them survive and be alive would be enough in my book. You need to do something so they work harder and get out of that situation by themselves but once you give them freebies its always not working well. To be fair if I had no legs of course I would love to park my car in handicapped spot just because it would be easier to acces the shop but if there would be the same acces to the shop as the normal place why would I be parking in that spot? If that kid would get something out of it I would be fin with it but we all understand its made just for the event and thats it. He is just put in position where he doesnt deserve to be and what will not improve anything in his life in long term. I understand him training in gym I understand him going out with Diego and all that but why put him in something like this? Why not send a guy who has nothing to do with space ships to the moon just because he has no legs? I just dont get it. Well That probably didnt do nothing bad but as I tried to explained these sort of things should be regulated by some one who doesnt bring emotions into them and who can critically think and make right decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump2020 Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 I dont know maybe this is some sort of American thing because you idolize celebreties so much but I dont get it at all. I have seen photos all over the internet some sick kid with cancer and his last wish is meeting up with Conor McGregor and I am allways YOU ARE FUCKING DYING WHY THE FUCK YOU NEED CONOR NOW? In these situations he would be the last person alive I would want to meet up with I would only care about people who are close to me friends and family I would not not care about others. And same goes for these celebreties they think they are above us just because they are seen on TV and thats why they need to save the world and meet up with sick or dying kids where they just should message that kid and say listen up man I am no body to you and you should not care about me at all real people who you need togeather now are your family not me. But maybe thats just because where I am coming from we in Latvia really dont have anything like that. There is no one who would walk down the street and people would actually ask him autograph for who is local celebrity. But as far as if you ask me I think its ridicilous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Man, I can't believe Diego lost to this guy... He really needs to retire m8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenlow73 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 You are actually retarded or have gone full blown troll mode Humors, good job, Calling him retarded is offensive to retarded people. It may have made sense to him in his own head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump2020 Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Calling him retarded is offensive to retarded people. It may have made sense to him in his own head. I dont think this is place to be rude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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