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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:01 AM

Anderson Silva and Dan Henderson are 37 and 42 respectively, Couture was also competitive in his early 40s and Lindland remained a top MW into his late 30s. Certain styles and certain fighters age better than others.


These guys are the exceptions to the rule. Most fighters start declining in their early 30s. I would have no problem with a longevity hidden, where the vast majority of fighters would start declining around 28-32, with one or two Randy Coutures in each in-game generation. That kind of longevity would need to be as rare as the TDPW, though.
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#22 Erik

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 01:56 PM

These guys are the exceptions to the rule. Most fighters start declining in their early 30s. I would have no problem with a longevity hidden, where the vast majority of fighters would start declining around 28-32, with one or two Randy Coutures in each in-game generation. That kind of longevity would need to be as rare as the TDPW, though.


Thing is it's not that rare; it's actually fairly common with guys who have Greco Roman wrestling backgrounds; all the four main guys from Team Quest (Sonnen, Couture, Lindland, and Henderson) remained competitive at the top of their division comfortably to 35 years old(and in the case of Hendo, actually seem to have gotten *better*). It's just stylistic.
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#23 Warwynd

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 08:19 PM

Again I mention that studies have shown it has little to do with age and more to do with length of career. the average time before decline is 9 years after which point the decline is very rapid. Most of the wrestlers that were mentioned started professional MMA careers much later then the average. Hence they are active later into their lives then those that started at 18. Henderson and Couture are still anomalies that should be exceedingly rare especially in this game, but my point is that setting a hard date and then giving a range from that point is probably not the best way to handle it. Rather making the 9 year mark be the deciding factor is a better way. Start the timer when the character is created and I bet you'll see a lot more people getting their fighters fighting a bit sooner also and so won't have as many 22 year olds with Sensational across the board. Of course that point might be moot when Mike finishes the training update.

That way 25 years olds won't be screwed as soon as they satart to get good and 18 year olds will not be Gods among mortals by their 23'rd birthday. Well, theat last part might still happen, but anyway. The research is out there. 9 years being the average and then we can go from there. I think the hit from the age drop off should be pretty severe. Like say 5% reduction in Physicals in the first year past the "Longevity Point" the following year it climbs up to about 10% or maybe 15%, etc... those numbers are right off the top of my head but I think you get the idea. The hit could also be across all skills and not just Physicals (whether that is realistic or not). Could even up the interval instead of years we are talking about maybe every 6 (in-game) months or every quarter. Hell could even be every week after the "Longevity Point" that you lose skill points. Point is that the age thing should hit hard but should not be carved in stone that at 30 shit starts to roll down hill.

Otherwise I agree that the old guys need to decline, but that is already coming. I even agree with the concept of what you guys are working towards I just think that using age is not the way to go. At least not entirely.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 08:31 PM

With how quick the game is 3 months to the year. I'd make it around 32 when they start declining. that is 3 years in real life. More than enough time to train rack up time. If its gonna be put in a hidden make it between 32-35. Please do not point out that Anderson Silva is 38. Its a game. Most fighters after 12 years fighting start to lose the will to fight and take less and less fights. I don't know many 35+ year olds that take more than 2-3 fights a year. If they do its mostly against Cans etc not at the top level of the game.
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