RegularJohn Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 The drop-off in effectiveness of training between 1-1 and 2-1 is still way too sharp. Above four fighters per coach and I could see an argument for significant drop off in gains, but the drop between 1 and 2 is huge and gets progressively less significant from there until four to one. That is just stupid. Even some of the best fighters in the world still train with TEAMS and do quite well. (Obviously, they are the best fighters in the world). So greatly reducing the amount of diminishing returns from training with more than one on one training will do wonders for not only giving people significantly better training but also making gyms a viable business proposition. Even without reducing the coach wages at all. Just to weigh in on this - in real life the drop off between 1-1 and 2-1 training can be minimal if the second guy is a quality partner. For pure technique a private session with an elite coach probably is the best way to go but for certain drills and striking defense and most of grappling training, 2-1 with a good partner may actually be better than 1-1. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwynd Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just to weigh in on this - in real life the drop off between 1-1 and 2-1 training can be minimal if the second guy is a quality partner. For pure technique a private session with an elite coach probably is the best way to go but for certain drills and striking defense and most of grappling training, 2-1 with a good partner may actually be better than 1-1. Granted. You would need one-on-one training at some point in real life to fine tune, but that doesn't invalidate my point. You can still benefit just as well, if not better overall in groups up to 3-4 on 1. My proposal would be to make the efficiency drop off at least half of what it is now up to 4-1 sessions and make the drop-off above 4 more significant. For this game I feel it is the better option. In fact, I feel that the drop off in efficiency between 1 and 4 on one should be only about as severe as the current drop off between 1 and 2. Then above four is when you start seeing the significant drop off in efficiency. When I first started playing this game the drop off between 1 on 1 and 2 on 1 was crippling. It was I think three or four times as severe as it is now. I cannot find the two charts anymore without spending more time then I care to to do so, but it was BAD. If you didn't get 1 on 1 then you just lost. it was that simple. You could never compete at the top and it was probably a big cause for player base declining. I feel that although it is much better now, that training is still a big problem. I feel really bad for the noobs that join the game today. They have no decent public gyms, and almost nothing that they can afford. With many of the newer ID restricted orgs wanting to pay paltry signing bonuses and show and win bonuses being equally anemic it's no wonder they go inactive and lose interest. They aren't seeing gains because they can't get decent training. Therefore they cannot win against the guys that have the good gyms; the private ones with one-on-one training. This to me is more important than physical caps and a lot of other things that have been brought up because it is doing a lot of harm to the player base, I think. I know this is going slightly off topic here, but physical caps is just silly. What should be addressed is actually more along the lines of a total skill point cap being lowered so you don't see all Elite/Elite/Elite/Black at the top end of the game. Those builds are unrealistic. The issues with nutrition companies as startups and so on is another problem, but ultimately unrelated to this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imcool Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Getting a bit off topic here gents. This thread is meant to expose the cheaters, I think 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwynd Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Fair enough Getting a bit off topic here gents. This thread is meant to expose the cheaters, I think Fair enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJMitchell Posted January 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Good ol' Boble giving himself some easy fights in his multi's org to pad his record. Good on ya mate. http://www.mmatycoon.com/scoutfight.php?fida=255114&fidb=210604 http://www.mmatycoon.com/scoutfight.php?fida=335070&fidb=274213 Edit: Just noticed, not only is it run by a multi but another multi is staff there. Fucking going all in!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglelord Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 Good ol' Boble giving himself some easy fights in his multi's org to pad his record. Good on ya mate. http://www.mmatycoon.com/scoutfight.php?fida=255114&fidb=210604 http://www.mmatycoon.com/scoutfight.php?fida=335070&fidb=274213 Edit: Just noticed, not only is it run by a multi but another multi is staff there. Fucking going all in!! and there is a third that runs a gym that the the 3 accounts all share 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJMitchell Posted January 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 Sorry boys. Maybe sorry me too, I got a lot of fighters who could get their juicy contracts cancelled because of this but as a wise man (lol) once said "woes of the executioner". Last Logins Manfred (1422) VIP Last Login:1 chuckw94 (4966) VIP Last Login:0 tiphix (126473) VIP Last Login:6 http://i64.tinypic.com/2ciguhk.png - 4 laundry companies in the first month of playing. All now closed obviously. Able to transfer upwards of $4,000,000+ - Used to switch around a bunch of companies, one of which is merch partner with empire http://i64.tinypic.com/10ckl6q.png http://i67.tinypic.com/351zh8l.png http://i67.tinypic.com/2i8kwwj.png And able to get his 2 creations into an invite only gym for empire fighters. Worst part of this is this post is probably going to hurt me more than the actual offenders because nothing gets done about this sort of thing. They'll keep playing like nothing happened and i'll have 6 fighters out on there ass looking for new contracts. Fuck. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxxtremeT13 Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 Sorry boys. Maybe sorry me too, I got a lot of fighters who could get their juicy contracts cancelled because of this but as a wise man (lol) once said "woes of the executioner". Last Logins Manfred (1422) VIP Last Login:1 chuckw94 (4966) VIP Last Login:0 tiphix (126473) VIP Last Login:6 http://i64.tinypic.com/2ciguhk.png - 4 laundry companies in the first month of playing. All now closed obviously. Able to transfer upwards of $4,000,000+ - Used to switch around a bunch of companies, one of which is merch partner with empire http://i64.tinypic.com/10ckl6q.png http://i67.tinypic.com/351zh8l.png http://i67.tinypic.com/2i8kwwj.png And able to get his 2 creations into an invite only gym for empire fighters. Worst part of this is this post is probably going to hurt me more than the actual offenders because nothing gets done about this sort of thing. They'll keep playing like nothing happened and i'll have 6 fighters out on there ass looking for new contracts. Fuck. I’ll sign your fighters bro...also, wtf is up with those fighters having nearly 1 million in bank with no fights? Gonna avoid the manager to manager transfer fees and go purchase a bunch of laundry product to give money to someone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 I was about to close my bookmaker Vampire bank but with the DARE owner being exposed as a multi i should make something clear first, i only opened it as he told me he was having trouble creating his own and wanted to use it for his events. I thought i would help him out and even put 50k of my own in to save him the transfer fees, i have not had any involvement with it since it was opened or gained anything financially. I am going to shut it down soon but will leave it open long enough for admin to check things over. The thing that has really pissed me off is the fact i have let him sign multiple fighters to his org on $1 as he was moaning abut losing money.....piss taker should have both accounts deleted not just one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrelio Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 So I was looking at the newly created fighters list to see if I could offer some contracts and ran into this: (way too obvious) http://mmatycoon.com/managerprofilemanager.php?MgrID=122544 http://mmatycoon.com/managerprofilemanager.php?MgrID=122814http://mmatycoon.com/managerprofilemanager.php?MgrID=122887 really? Leon Leof / Leof Hulk / Lion HulkProbably even more uncreative multis around but these ones were so blatantly exposed even though I was not looking for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrelio Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 whoa, I'm starting to think there around about 25(real) managers in this game:Giacomo Modena Fillipo Benedetti Private Grappling New York 265 lbs 0-0-0 Alberto Bologna Fillipo Benedetti Private Grappling New York 265 lbs 0-0-0 Carlo Roma Fillipo Benedetti Private Grappling New York 265 lbs 0-0-0 Gionatan Milano Fillipo Benedetti Private Grappling New York 265 lbs 0-0-0 Paolo Turin Fillipo Benedetti Private Grappling New York 180 lbs 0-0-0 Trash Original Phillip Viking Private Grappling New York 200 lbs 0-0-0 Trash Fun Phillip Viking Private Grappling New York 265 lbs 0-0-0 Trash Walker Phillip Viking Private Grappling New York 270 lbs 0-0-0 Trash Man Phillip Viking Private Grappling New York 250 lbs 0-0-0 Trash Bin Phillip Viking Private Grappling New York 265 lbs 0-0-0 Uebe Viking Trash Can Private Grappling New York 265 lbs 0-0-0 Ivar Viking Trash Can Private Grappling New York 265 lbs 0-0-0 Asle Viking Trash Can Private Grappling New York 265 lbs 0-0-0 Froere Viking Trash Can Private Grappling New York 265 lbs 0-0-0 Ragnaar Viking Trash Can Private Grappling New York 265 lbs 0-0-0 Gustav Rehrl Karl Gustav Private Grappling New York 265 lbs 0-0-0 Gustav Faisst Karl Gustav Private Grappling New York 265 lbs 0-0-0 Karl Geiger Karl Gustav Private Grappling New York 265 lbs 0-0-0 Gustav Rydczek Karl Gustav Private Grappling New York 265 lbs 0-0-0 Karl Frenzel Karl Gustav Private Grappling New York 265 lbs 0-0-0From the newly created fighters list. http://mmatycoon.com/latestfighters.php 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxxtremeT13 Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 How does a manager that just joined the game merely days ago already have over $200k bank balance and not even a member of an alliance and 0 fights to their name. Picked up some FA but no fights or their own yet. Then start an org to boot. I mean I came back from being off a number of years and I still didn’t start my org now until a little bit into it. Makes it harder to run ID restricted orgs because all these waisted fighter ID’s from 1 guy having 20 accounts with 4 fighters doing god knows what with these fighters, but certainly not contributing to legit orgs. Even now it’s hard for me to find fighters between 335 and 340k and a lot of them over the 340k are all multi account fighters being used for the sole gain of 1 actual manager. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duphus Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 Last LoginsLeof (122544) Basic Last Login:0Lion72 (122887) Basic Last Login:0 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwynd Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 Last Logins Leof (122544) Basic Last Login:0 Lion72 (122887) Basic Last Login:0 Holy fucking shit... Thsi shows two things One, this asshole needs to go. He is obviously trying to game the system Two, This asshole really sucks at this. Even with all this bullshit going on he still isn't doing as well as Blake Phoenix and his "Brother" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsieur.Camara Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 Sorry boys. Maybe sorry me too, I got a lot of fighters who could get their juicy contracts cancelled because of this but as a wise man (lol) once said "woes of the executioner". Last Logins Manfred (1422) VIP Last Login:1 chuckw94 (4966) VIP Last Login:0 tiphix (126473) VIP Last Login:6 http://i64.tinypic.com/2ciguhk.png - 4 laundry companies in the first month of playing. All now closed obviously. Able to transfer upwards of $4,000,000+ - Used to switch around a bunch of companies, one of which is merch partner with empire http://i64.tinypic.com/10ckl6q.png http://i67.tinypic.com/351zh8l.png http://i67.tinypic.com/2i8kwwj.png And able to get his 2 creations into an invite only gym for empire fighters. Worst part of this is this post is probably going to hurt me more than the actual offenders because nothing gets done about this sort of thing. They'll keep playing like nothing happened and i'll have 6 fighters out on there ass looking for new contracts. Fuck. As an org owner myself the right for him to do would be to keep your free Hype to keep feeding it to the good managers. I would keep all your fighters lol. The one that might pay the price is your colleague though, no more joke matches like this one: http://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=951291 Chuck will stop protecting him (not like he would even accept this fight lol) and finally put him against: http://www.mmatycoon.com/gallery/0/14862330773708.gif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJMitchell Posted January 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 As an org owner myself the right for him to do would be to keep your free Hype to keep feeding it to the good managers. I would keep all your fighters lol. I'll follow your lead Jude. Just like how Gus keeps DJ Maximus in CEC so after you build up a few wins he can feed that juicy hype to the top dogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imcool Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 As an org owner myself the right for him to do would be to keep your free Hype to keep feeding it to the good managers. I would keep all your fighters lol. The one that might pay the price is your colleague though, no more joke matches like this one: http://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentary.php?FTID=951291 Chuck will stop protecting him (not like he would even accept this fight lol) and finally put him against: http://www.mmatycoon.com/gallery/0/14862330773708.gif I don't decline fights you shitty. And once Jodson wins the title, Boaz will be his next fight. Keep your nose out of the big boy fights. Keep fighting your cans and losing every other fight;) 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsieur.Camara Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 I totally hit a nerve there Look another easy fight for the mighty Justice League https://www.mmatycoon.com/orgupcomingeventpublic.php?EvID=918178 oops I already crushed that alliance, what are you guys called now? The Stepdads. I hope that is not a reference to my BBC and what I do to you clowns 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 I can 99% guarantee that the original owners of the chuckw94 and Manfred accounts are two distinct people. I talked with both extensively in the golden age of the game and it would have been hard to orchestrate the cover story. However, as we've seen in multiple multi scandals, there is no knowing who currently has the log in info for any given account. My last communication with Manny was probably 4-5years ago. At that time he was not interested in playing any longer. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsquirrel Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Even now it’s hard for me to find fighters between 335 and 340k and a lot of them over the 340k are all multi account fighters being used for the sole gain of 1 actual manager. The hundreds of fake afghan fighters made to speed up the 340K turnover left a hole in the id range before it leaving it with less fighters. Otherwise I have no idea if it is more or less riddled with discarded multis.. I just know there are plenty of them at 340K where I'm trying to recruit some guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrelio Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 The hundreds of fake afghan fighters made to speed up the 340K turnover left a hole in the id range before it leaving it with less fighters. Otherwise I have no idea if it is more or less riddled with discarded multis.. I just know there are plenty of them at 340K where I'm trying to recruit some guys. one discarded multi (slade sanders) is fighting for the title on my next event ;p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubberWinger Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 one discarded multi (slade sanders) is fighting for the title on my next event ;p sucks because in 5 days he is free but title shot is in 2 days lool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grump Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 so much work going into proving multis when Mike dont give a damn.... I reported 4 accounts with the mail of ADMISSION from the offender to Mike....and nothing happened.... i gave up on worry about multis way back then.....why waste the time if they are not going to be banned ? Just sounds like ur pussy hurts to whine about something when there seems to be no remedy.... 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imcool Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 so much work going into proving multis when Mike dont give a damn.... I reported 4 accounts with the mail of ADMISSION from the offender to Mike....and nothing happened.... i gave up on worry about multis way back then.....why waste the time if they are not going to be banned ? Just sounds like ur pussy hurts to whine about something when there seems to be no remedy.... http://www.quickmeme.com/img/9e/9e906e3074e8fb587aac74362ee6aa9727bf8ed2c321213e373783984a07273b.jpg 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJMitchell Posted January 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Sorry Grump, had a bit of pussy pain so had to post something. I hope that's ok with you mate. http://i67.tinypic.com/351yccy.png 27 Sep, 2018 Thursday - Changed Username from JacksonWink to ValentinasAss.27 Sep, 2018 Thursday - Changed name from Jackson Wink to Valentina's Ass. Nice name change Blake. I saw what you did with the avatar too, actually pretty funny, well played. I'll just leave this here too. You 2 must be real close as brothers, the similarities are uncanny. Since this is in the Game Discussion forum and not real life MMA forum, I'm gonna take it this direction: Foot "Cranky Bitch" Fungus (302783) Massive win streak against tough competition and never been KO'd. looks like i'm going with this guy: Senegalese "Badass" Wrestler (340140) 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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