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Idea from TWGC: Grappling/BJJ Fighting Orgs


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Are there any plans to allow grappling or BJJ orgs? Or something like them, perhaps an option to have fights with grappling or BJJ rules within an org, as with KT options?

 

I also think a game-wide competition would be cool, even if it's a one-off or yearly thing.

 

It sort of harkens back to the early days of MMA when you had guys like Gracie or Severn coming in with solid BJJ or Wrestling...I've had mixed success with guys who are really strong in a single discipline, but I am a new manager so take it with a grain of salt.

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we already had this conversation and the decision is that there will be no grappling only orgs and the TWGC would run a few times a year. The number is yet to be decided but based on this first experience I hope we get 4 times a year, maybe 1 time per game year, just like real life ADCC. I'm really enjoying TWGC :)

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cuz it's different. some people actually like it and want to do more of it.

also, the game changes haven't fully kicked in to weed out some of the "all-arounders", thus making it viable for more "one-siders" to compete in actual mma orgs. so until then, kt and grapp orgs will continue to flourish. or should anyways.

 

remember, just cuz u don't like it, or understand it, doesn't mean it's worthless.

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I really don't see the point in them. There's no huge profits being made by anyone because TWGC isn't run by a user. There's no grappling orgs in real life so what's the need for them to be in the game?

The point is some of us want them and we feel it would bring more fun to the game. This reason alone should be enough.

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I really don't see the point in them. There's no huge profits being made by anyone because TWGC isn't run by a user. There's no grappling orgs in real life so what's the need for them to be in the game?

So, Metamoris is what then? I thought its pure grappling promotion...check your facts first, Marky :)

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Yeah, we've talked to Mike about this before. A TWGC rule set, but I don't think that is happening any time soon.

But we HAVE to make it only for HBGG.

1) Chuch deserves that, he is trustable guy and he put a lot of HIS OWN money as additional prizes for TWGC winners

2) We can't go with more ground orgs - that would kill TWGC. Let's make HBGG our own Metamoris Pro - one and only ground promotion in the game.

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But we HAVE to make it only for HBGG.

1) Chuch deserves that, he is trustable guy and he put a lot of HIS OWN money as additional prizes for TWGC winners

2) We can't go with more ground orgs - that would kill TWGC. Let's make HBGG our own Metamoris Pro - one and only ground promotion in the game.

 

completely agree with 1.

 

kind of disagree with 2. i neither think it would kill twgc (exclusive - who doesn't want to be THE twgc champ?.. prizes could help too) nor agree with letting a set of priviledge rules apply to a single user... this could create a dangerous precedent.

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Its not like rules apply to Chuck - we don't give him any kind of power. But more orgs would just water this idea down. I think TWGC was created and meant to be something special. Besides, rules would apply to HBGG not Chuck, orgs can be sold, right?

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1) IMHO TWGC will still continue to be something special even if we allow grappling only orgs. i'd definitely want to compete, win and be a part of it... wouldn't you?

2) imagine the situation where my grappler sucks balls (p4p 10k+) and chuck's org reaches top10... would not make sense for him to hire my guy. also grapplers from new mgrs will normaly have no relevant ranks... when chuck's org develops rank wise, it's no hire for them too. so we're back to square one for those fighters/users unless we force chuck to hire them... not my idea of fairness since it would hurt his business.

 

I think the only way to make this right is like we do with KT.

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1) IMHO TWGC will still continue to be something special even if we allow grappling only orgs. i'd definitely want to compete, win and be a part of it... wouldn't you?

2) imagine the situation where my grappler sucks balls (p4p 10k+) and chuck's org reaches top10... would not make sense for him to hire my guy. also grapplers from new mgrs will normaly have no relevant ranks... when chuck's org develops rank wise, it's no hire for them too. so we're back to square one for those fighters/users unless we force chuck to hire them... not my idea of fairness since it would hurt his business.

 

I think the only way to make this right is like we do with KT.

Go same way as KT - and you will end up same as KT. How many KT orgs do we have? 1? 2? I will stick with my idea about it, mostly because I see how KT looks now. Deffy don't want to see grappling competition like that.

 

On side note - one day grappling tourney could be nice sidetrack for TWGC - I mean, sign 8 guys and its fight after fight with some energy boost between them. That could be run more often - like QFCT - random weight class, city and division. Call it Tycoon Grappling Challenge or sth like that. Could be also fun thing to do :)

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Go same way as KT - and you will end up same as KT. How many KT orgs do we have? 1? 2? I will stick with my idea about it, mostly because I see how KT looks now. Deffy don't want to see grappling competition like that.

 

 

LOL this is so not the point. the point is why stop others from running a grappling only org - not whether or not something apart from MMA can exist here.

 

I'll get back to the point in a minute but let me show your reasoning fails there too. did you even do minimal check before posting this? from top 10 KT orgs rank list - there are others:

http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=3514 - 113 fighters signed

http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=1479 - 119

http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=3550 - 103

http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=3764 - 84

http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=2954 - 108

http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=2341 - 169

http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=2904 - 30

http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=1709 - 101

 

so why even bring the number of KT orgs up to prove a point that a single grappling org is enough? I alone have 3 or 4 fighters I'd like to do grappling only. obviously this is not the main stream for the game so it is expected that MMA orgs are stronger than KT and grappling.

 

however, from the day one, this was never my point. back to it: even if you thought there was only a single KT org, why the hell give a single user special priviledges? why stop others from having the option to run a similar org for weaker fighters and let everybody have fun? you didn't address this point of mine in your response.

 

because that would weaken the idea of a TWGC? I honestly think no one will give up TWGC because they're part of a grappling only org. I am pretty sure all fighters signed to Chuck's org who are able to enter TWGC are going to participate. this is an outstanding event in the game: everybody who enjoys the ground game wants that exclusive belt and that trophy and all the glory that comes with winning it. this is also a point from my previous post you never addressed.

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LOL this is so not the point. the point is why stop others from running a grappling only org - not whether or not something apart from MMA can exist here.

 

I'll get back to the point in a minute but let me show your reasoning fails there too. did you even do minimal check before posting this? from top 10 KT orgs rank list - there are others:

http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=3514 - 113 fighters signed

http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=1479 - 119

http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=3550 - 103

http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=3764 - 84

http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=2954 - 108

http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=2341 - 169

http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=2904 - 30

http://mmatycoon.com/orgpublic.php?oid=1709 - 101

 

so why even bring the number of KT orgs up to prove a point that a single grappling org is enough? I alone have 3 or 4 fighters I'd like to do grappling only. obviously this is not the main stream for the game so it is expected that MMA orgs are stronger than KT and grappling.

 

however, from the day one, this was never my point. back to it: even if you thought there was only a single KT org, why the hell give a single user special priviledges? why stop others from having the option to run a similar org for weaker fighters and let everybody have fun? you didn't address this point of mine in your response.

 

because that would weaken the idea of a TWGC? I honestly think no one will give up TWGC because they're part of a grappling only org. I am pretty sure all fighters signed to Chuck's org who are able to enter TWGC are going to participate. this is an outstanding event in the game: everybody who enjoys the ground game wants that exclusive belt and that trophy and all the glory that comes with winning it. this is also a point from my previous post you never addressed.

You keep saying "we can't give single player a privileges...but its not about user - its about org. So here you are wrong, same as Im with number of KT orgs.

 

It's just my point of view, not like Im trying to impose my will on you. Im just huuuuge grappling fan and from my POV creating more grappling orgs wouldn't be good. But thats just my irrelevant opinion.

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