itakebrides Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 This one that has me bothered is this .Hiddens will show up for most guys when there physicals don't go above 13 (exceptional) but i have one guy who has a physical 14 (sensational) cardio but granite chin still comes up.So does that mean a guy who granite chin keep coming up has a better granite chin then the guy who granite chin hidden does not come up on the tot when there physicals get better then exceptional ? So basically if a hidden keep coming up even when on of there physicals hit 14(sensational ) they have a super hidden or what ? Also what the deal with ko power?I think by guy might pop ko power but is ko power only connected to good puching and boxing or will it show for a guy who had high muai thai with great Knees ? here my fighter all his be doing is showing prefer stand-up i am like what the feck http://mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=237501 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 KO power is connected to all strikes: Kicks Punches Knees Elbows GnP Anywhere, strikes on the ground, clinch or standup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylib Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 ^ I've heard otherwise, not sure whether it's applicable to GnP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Knockout power is like super strength, if ur fighter has it, it will get better with strength. It is a sign of high ko power when ur fighter shows "ko power" or "powerful" on tott with low levels of strength under 12. Showing ko power on the tott when strength is at 12 or higher is pretty normal. It's like "hey i got muscles" once u get to 12 strength(nice biceps, how much do u bench?). Now if ur fighter shows "Heavy Handed", this is the real monster knockout power everyone wants. Some fighters show "Heavy Handed" with strength levels under 12 and when this happens, it means u got high level ko power. Keep in mind that 12 strength will likely cover Heavy Handed with regular knockout power from the strength. And knockout power applies to all strikes: punches, kicks, knees, elbows and GnP (submissions are based off intelligence I believe) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyJones Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Some fighters show "Big right hand" with strength levels under 12 and when this happens, it means u got high level ko power. Hmm that's interesting, I never thought about it like this. My very first fighter showed "Big right hand" right off the bat in his first fight @ 18 yrs old. Now I know why I keep him around Too bad his chin and injury hiddens suck but he's still a fun fighter to manage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itakebrides Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Damn thanks for all the conflicting information .yeah i still thinks ko power is mainly link to punches .Form experience i had 1 fighter mainly a ground fighter who pop knockout power only when he punching went up to woeful. Dont know what to do with him.No point having knockout power if you have a glass jaw and cuts .So he has experience knockout power and intelligent good enough learner but a glass jaw that cuts Here a link.Still one of my frist fighters so trying to make it work http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=222422 Also i saw a very strange one from the free agent list How the hell can someone pop very confident one fight and the next one pop very self confident what the f .Here link also http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=245537 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBK16 Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 KO power is linked to Punches, Kicks, Knees, Elbows AND GnP. Big Right Hand means basic 1-punch knockout power. Not too sure regarding the Confident scenario but my best guess would be it adapted to his loss to show that he has confidence in his abilities to get a W in this fight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 confident and very confident are like the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBK16 Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 confident and very confident are like the same. Yeah, just very is better haha 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceTempleton Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 confident and very confident are like the same. Self confident is left side and very confident is right side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itakebrides Posted April 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 Self confident is left side and very confident is right side. yeah thanks i started thinking that but man mike could have worded it better.Where i form when someone said your self confident that means you have no confidence . This one that has me bothered is this .Hiddens will show up for most guys when there physicals don't go above 13 (exceptional) but i have one guy who has a physical 14 (sensational) cardio but granite chin still comes up.So does that mean a guy who granite chin keep coming up has a better granite chin then the guy who granite chin hidden does not come up on the tot when there physicals get better then exceptional ? So basically if a hidden keep coming up even when on of there physicals hit 14(sensational ) they have a super hidden or what ? This was the main question and nobody answer it yet . Basically if a hidden i.e granite chin keeps coming on tot after the physical hit sensational or elite does that mean they have a really high super hidden? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itakebrides Posted April 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 Knockout power is like super strength, if ur fighter has it, it will get better with strength. It is a sign of high ko power when ur fighter shows "ko power" or "powerful" on tott with low levels of strength under 12. Showing ko power on the tott when strength is at 12 or higher is pretty normal. It's like "hey i got muscles" once u get to 12 strength. Now if ur fighter shows "Big right hand", this is the real monster knockout power everyone wants. Some fighters show "Big right hand" with strength levels under 12 and when this happens, it means u got high level ko power. Some fighters will begin their careers with "KO power" on tott and as their strength develops above a certain level , it grows into "Big right hand" later on. And knockout power applies to all strikes, standup, ground, clinch but not submissions apparently (subs are based off of intelligence I think) I think this might be wrong i read somewhere big right hand is a level below knockout power/ko power.Like granite chin /solid chin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBK16 Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 I think this might be wrong i read somewhere big right hand is a level below knockout power/ko power.Like granite chin /solid chin Big Right Hand means that his Right Hand has 1 hit KO power. KO power means you have it in both hands, elbows, knees, kicks but you can achieve that through improved training of these stats but if you have Big Right Hand show up, its a sign that you guy has a great Right Hand for Boxing. Also, Heavy Handed is like a middle point. Means you have KO Power in both hands, but not your kicks etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBK16 Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 yeah thanks i started thinking that but man mike could have worded it better.Where i form when someone said your self confident that means you have no confidence . This was the main question and nobody answer it yet . Basically if a hidden i.e granite chin keeps coming on tot after the physical hit sensational or elite does that mean they have a really high super hidden I had a guy who had Granite Chin from the start, and his Conditioning hit Elite. He used to say "BJJ Blue Belt, Granite Chin, Heavy Handed" Now it says Cardio Machine instead of Heavy Handed. Basically, if you train one stat really high, it will replace one of them, but you will still have the other hidden. Granite Chin could have stayed there because there wasnt an alternative to go above it in the pecking order. If you train another stat (Kicks, or anything else that will show up as something like "Dangerous Kicks" and it still remains there then you definitely have a brick wall of a chin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 False. KO Power applies to every limb in this game (and yes, that includes GnP). BRH and Heavy Hands are just tied to your punching skill as well so you won't see them pop up if your punches are <100. Stop spreading misinformation please.Also HH and Granite will always share a spot so that's impossible, and granite will always overwrite it. The only thing above granite on the hierarchy is Insanely Flexible, and even then it's only on the left hand side. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBK16 Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 False. KO Power applies to every limb in this game (and yes, that includes GnP). BRH and Heavy Hands are just tied to your punching skill as well so you won't see them pop up if your punches are <100. Stop spreading misinformation please. Also HH and Granite will always share a spot so that's impossible, and granite will always overwrite it. The only thing above granite on the hierarchy is Insanely Flexible, and even then it's only on the left hand side. Not sure if your referring to me but did I not state that BRH and Heavy Handed refers to your fists? I had a guy show Heavy Handed at 75 punching skill, so it can be shown before 100. If its impossible, how has it shown both for me before? This is going back years, so I dont have a screenshot of it but I have seen it before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 Find the fighters and link it then. HH always appears in the third slot, same as chin.It might be proficient or so, but it's still tied to your punching skill. I was almost positive it was remarkable but Mike has confirmed this before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegroovemonkey Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 Yeah, heavy handed and granite chin will both be in the third slot and granite chin overrides everything except for flexible. I've never been 100% on the exact differences between the chin and power stuff, but I usually keep all of them if they show up on a project since they are all good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Cool. This even cleared some things up for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceTempleton Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 yeah thanks i started thinking that but man mike could have worded it better.Where i form when someone said your self confident that means you have no confidence . You sure you don't mean self conscious? Im pretty sure self confident universally means you have confidence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tp61503 Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 You sure you don't mean self conscious? Im pretty sure self confident universally means you have confidence. what i was thinking lol. for the record Manne is right here people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itakebrides Posted June 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 You sure you don't mean self conscious? Im pretty sure self confident universally means you have confidence. Not around this neck of the woods.I have be getting saying it wrong for i don't know how long .Yeah self conscious yep that the one .Fell like a real dumbass now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOODSPORT Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Dope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb613 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Just adding this here because I'm curious, is there a cap on hiddens or potentially could one manger pull a guy with nothing and another manager pull someone with insane chin ko power and giant heart who learns super fast etc etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdown Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Has any top notch fighter ever had "Powerful" show up on TOTT early? It's been a while since I've had it pop. Isn't it basically just the same as Good in Bed since there is nothing higher than his strength value? Might be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.