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There is no real standard but if you will be competing it is a good idea to get your physicals up. The thing is a young project needs to take advantage of their training time and focus on the secondaries training and then sparring later on and the physicals come after that. It's up to you but it's considered a waste of valuable young training time to max physicals out in the beginning when it is fastest and easiest to train the secondaries.

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I like to fight my 18 year old projects pretty early but as mentioned it is not optimal as physicals train at the same rate at 36 years old like they do at 18.

 

Get your conditioning to wonderful and your strength too at least. A good org owner will know how to make fair fights. But you must also do some research, like if you see a guy like this:

 

http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=320007

 

that ain't some new 18 year old. That guy was created at 16 and on private gym, you can bet when he fights his physicals will be close to max. A good matchmaker will put him against similar competition, a bad matchmaker will put him against a new 18-20 year old and you'll get demolished.

 

good luck :)

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I like to fight my 18 year old projects pretty early but as mentioned it is not optimal as physicals train at the same rate at 36 years old like they do at 18.

 

Get your conditioning to wonderful and your strength too at least. A good org owner will know how to make fair fights. But you must also do some research, like if you see a guy like this:

 

http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=320007

 

that ain't some new 18 year old. That guy was created at 16 and on private gym, you can bet when he fights his physicals will be close to max. A good matchmaker will put him against similar competition, a bad matchmaker will put him against a new 18-20 year old and you'll get demolished.

 

good luck :)

Ahoy there, u special ed ambassador. If I was to put him in a 320k org...u do understand the 18 year old creations of the same ID are going to be 20 by now, and should be just as trained up as Svennson, right?

 

Stop spewing garbage advice to newer players from Grumpys "I have no idea what a liberal is" handbook. Schmuck.

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Rightly everyone has their own method... I'm pretty new here and i'm trying to figure out how many CT sessions in a week a fighter really need for fight after 2-3 months from creation and not be screwed when getting older. Since, for now, i've only seen 1 fighter over 19 years of age i lack some experience for know if i'm doing it all wrong in the long term.

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Rightly everyone has their own method... I'm pretty new here and i'm trying to figure out how many CT sessions in a week a fighter really need for fight after 2-3 months from creation and not be screwed when getting older. Since, for now, i've only seen 1 fighter over 19 years of age i lack some experience for know if i'm doing it all wrong in the long term.

 

Just take advantage of the fact that the younger the fighter, the faster he learns and that learning speed does not affect physicals (age does but not their personal learning speed i.e. all 18 y/o's learn at the same speed; all 19 y/o's learn at the same speed which is a tad slower; and so on)

 

I believe a couple CT sessions a week is good enough to not get in the way of learning secondaries at the fastest rate and at the same time not having completely useless physicals. they won't be all double digits after 2-3 months but they'll be good enough to fight at ID restricted orgs.

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Ahoy there, u special ed ambassador. If I was to put him in a 320k org...u do understand the 18 year old creations of the same ID are going to be 20 by now, and should be just as trained up as Svennson, right?

 

Stop spewing garbage advice to newer players from Grumpys "I have no idea what a liberal is" handbook. Schmuck.

 

Not sure why you guys are getting so triggered. I know exactly how you guys operate so instead of searching for hours for a proper example in 2 clicks I found a perfect example to teach something in the Noob thread.

 

I am not criticizing your methods, you guys like to train train and train guys to get an advantage and you are very successful at it.

 

Take a look at King Kendrick's last 5-6 fights. He has a slight (or medium) advantage over all his opponents except the one QFC where he went 18 year old against 18 year old and he lost that one. It totally illustrates why Kendrick avoids creation tournaments as when on even ground it gets harder (I know this, take a look at my projects being tested and losing sometimes).

 

Again, not criticizing just showing facts. I used to play online poker and would roam tables for hours before finding an edge over a fish and then entering the table. There was no point battling the sharks and I was also very successful at it.

 

Don't take it personal, if you don't like people pointing out your stuff then dont do it lol. You guys remind me of this guy I sometimes lose to in QFC's lol:

 

http://www.mmatycoon.com/managerprofilemanager.php?MgrID=120046

 

I get it, you are playing the game as it is intended. To find an edge and win. Own up to it and stop getting so butthurt lol.

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Ahoy there, u special ed ambassador. If I was to put him in a 320k org...u do understand the 18 year old creations of the same ID are going to be 20 by now, and should be just as trained up as Svennson, right?

 

Stop spewing garbage advice to newer players from Grumpys "I have no idea what a liberal is" handbook. Schmuck.

 

Except that you wont lol You will train him another 2-3 Tycoon years to get an advantage.

 

Good luck with rolling good hiddens (you will never know) though noob.

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So I should not train my fighters or what? What a freakin crybaby.. There are ID orgs where everyone gets equal ground ID-wise. If you aren't good in developing fighters, it is not my fault noob. Also if you want your stupid rambling to sound legit, please explain me how I got a champion with 5 title fight wins in the hardest org in the game with a FA pickup that is far from having skill advantage or good hiddens? You are a noob that cant do shit so you are trying to undermine the success of the others. Spend that energy in learning the game instead.

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There is no real standard but if you will be competing it is a good idea to get your physicals up. The thing is a young project needs to take advantage of their training time and focus on the secondaries training and then sparring later on and the physicals come after that. It's up to you but it's considered a waste of valuable young training time to max physicals out in the beginning when it is fastest and easiest to train the secondaries.

Am i mistaken or is the part about physicals false? I thought physicals trained faster as a younger fighter

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For ID restricted orgsI like to fight early and often. Meaning that The first thing I do is gtrain Conditioning up to Remarkable and Strength to Superb. After that I go hard on the secondaries. After three to four weeks of training I am usually in a place where I can start taking fights as long as they are three to four weeks out. After that I will usually fight every three to four weeks. Kendrick and some of the others like to train longer before unleashing their creations. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I just lack the patience for that. LOL. I just started back after a long break, so I am itching to get in there and mix it up, but I did buy two 16 year olds and they will not fight until two in-game years (24 weeks) have passed. Those 16 year olds should look something like the type of fighters Kendrick builds. Although he is probably much better at building projects than I am. Although I have made good use of his build guide. You should check it out.

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So I should not train my fighters or what? What a freakin crybaby.. There are ID orgs where everyone gets equal ground ID-wise. If you aren't good in developing fighters, it is not my fault noob. Also if you want your stupid rambling to sound legit, please explain me how I got a champion with 5 title fight wins in the hardest org in the game with a FA pickup that is far from having skill advantage or good hiddens? You are a noob that cant do shit so you are trying to undermine the success of the others. Spend that energy in learning the game instead.

 

lol u mad

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Yeah it is false. The older your fighter gets, the slower his physicals train up.

That was once the group thought consensus in game, but Mike posted once that physical and skill learning speed had the same degradation rate. So there was never any benefit to waiting to train physicals.

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That was once the group thought consensus in game, but Mike posted once that physical and skill learning speed had the same degradation rate. So there was never any benefit to waiting to train physicals.

 

Wait so what ever people did for years was not true? Physicals train at the same speed at any age? It should be extreamly east to test to be fair.

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That was what everyone thought, but Mike denied it here once. he said that physical learning speed is higher at 18 then it was later in a fighters career.

 

Is it possible that physicals train at the same speed but as fighters start to decline that makes them not train as fast, just a theory please do correct if you know this is wrong

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That was once the group thought consensus in game, but Mike posted once that physical and skill learning speed had the same degradation rate. So there was never any benefit to waiting to train physicals.

Did he say whether it was a linear drop between the two of them? So let's just say for example, both Secondaries and Physicals train say 10% slower as you age 1 year older. I never looked up whether they were the same % rate or whether they had their own reduction in training rate.

 

For my fighters at least (Ain't really paid attention too much to it for about 2 years now) it seemed that if they had good to high learning speed, then it's still beneficial to work on secondaries first to make more use of the learning speed, but then again, I also just use General CT sessions rather than specific physical sessions like Weights, Cardio and Yoga so the numbers that each individual physical would be boosted by would be less than a Secondary skill. I'd say it's very much dependent on your training style as to whether it's beneficial to wait for Physicals to be trained or not.

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I never said physicals had anything to do with learning speed or that you should not train them at a young age but I'm telling you when I started to take the advice of focusing more on secondaries for my young projects that's when my projects started to get better.

Physicals are and will always be the easiest thing to train in the game. Sure the speed goes down with age but they are still super easy to train.

The order of importance for a project fighter is secondaries>sparring>physicals.

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Is sparring effected by age?

 

No but it may add unnecessary points to skills you don't really want.

 

Also I've read someone say that the higher your relataed secondaries are, the most points go to the primary in question after a sparring session (is this confirmed?). That's why I like to develop high secondaries then start sparring.

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No but it may add unnecessary points to skills you don't really want.

 

Also I've read someone say that the higher your relataed secondaries are, the most points go to the primary in question after a sparring session (is this confirmed?). That's why I like to develop high secondaries then start sparring.

Thank you

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