Timqwe Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTree Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 That Tim Qwe guy looks suspect 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello301 Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 lot of new players......not fishy at all man. Grumpy probably just forgot to close his legs again. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f2fkoh Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 What am i looking at here? is this an all fighters list, or recent created fighters list? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigLarry Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Scroll down through the list and surprisingly you ll find more of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsquirrel Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 The recent created list. So 3 of the accounts joined within 15 minutes of each other, the 4th the next day. So ok, I understand what I'm seeing but maybe not all the implications. I think I've read somewhere it's against the rules or at least frowned upon by the community. But what does it mean practically? Cannon fodder to fill out spots in the org, or something more devious going on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 The recent created list. So 3 of the accounts joined within 15 minutes of each other, the 4th the next day. So ok, I understand what I'm seeing but maybe not all the implications. I think I've read somewhere it's against the rules or at least frowned upon by the community. But what does it mean practically? Cannon fodder to fill out spots in the org, or something more devious going on? Likely just someone filling out spots in their org and using the created cans as stepping stones but there have been a history of managers creating alt accounts to create new project fighters in order to farm through them and test them out to cultivate and keep all the fighters with the best hiddens and eventually releasing them in order to be picked up by their main account. This is not right or fair because 1) the game is losing out on money to support itself when an non VIP alt account is used to work around the system in place, 2) being a high ranked manager made it basically guaranteed he would get the released project fighters and 3) testing the projects out on an alt account also saves the main manager from having potential losses on his record due to the test fights. In the latter case the manager was banned I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwynd Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Annihilation has been watching the new fighter pretty closely. When I made my newest fighter they were sending me contract offers within hours if not minutes. They are trying to fill the roster. I suspect that they are using their staff members fighters to fill slots, which I am not a fan of. but right now with the 475,786 330K ID restricted orgs, finding enough fighters to fill all the slots is pretty tricky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arlenbalesmma Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Likely just someone filling out spots in their org and using the created cans as stepping stones but there have been a history of managers creating alt accounts to create new project fighters in order to farm through them and test them out to cultivate and keep all the fighters with the best hiddens and eventually releasing them in order to be picked up by their main account. This is not right or fair because 1) the game is losing out on money to support itself, 2) being a high ranked manager made it basically guaranteed he would get the released project fighters and 3) testing the projects out on an alt account also saves the main manager from having potential losses on his record due to the test fights. In the latter case the manager was banned I believe. Tim Qwe says these alts are my multis, which is untrue. I'm also not a highly ranked manager, I was gone for a long time, I would not win free agents. Nor are these alts of my staff (we have none yet). If they're multiuser, I'll happily end contract if someone reports them and they're banned. I invite all new ID's, my org is a couple weeks old, I'm trying to fill the divisions. Some accept, some go elsewhere. But accusing an org owner of having multi's because they may, or may not, be multi's in his org is ludicrous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwynd Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Tim Qwe says these alts are my multis, which is untrue. I'm also not a highly ranked manager, I was gone for a long time, I would not win free agents. Nor are these alts of my staff (we have none yet). Â If they're multiuser, I'll happily end contract if someone reports them and they're banned. I invite all new ID's, my org is a couple weeks old, I'm trying to fill the divisions. Some accept, some go elsewhere. But accusing an org owner of having multi's because they may, or may not, be multi's in his org is ludicrous. Â Neither, Lefty or myself are accusing you or any staff you may have of being multis. We both said that we suspect that someone is just trying to fill the roster, which is tough with so many 330K ID restricted orgs out there. I also mentioned that I had one of my guys approached within I think a half hour of being created. That implies only that Annihilation is watching the new fighter creation list closely. Lefty did mention that there was an instance of shady behaviour and that the manager/s in question got banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arlenbalesmma Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Neither, Lefty or myself are accusing you or any staff you may have of being multis. We both said that we suspect that someone is just trying to fill the roster, which is tough with so many 330K ID restricted orgs out there. I also mentioned that I had one of my guys approached within I think a half hour of being created. That implies only that Annihilation is watching the new fighter creation list closely. Lefty did mention that there was an instance of shady behaviour and that the manager/s in question got banned. I know you two didn't, but Tim Qwe did in our creations tournament thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arlenbalesmma Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Neither, Lefty or myself are accusing you or any staff you may have of being multis. We both said that we suspect that someone is just trying to fill the roster, which is tough with so many 330K ID restricted orgs out there. I also mentioned that I had one of my guys approached within I think a half hour of being created. That implies only that Annihilation is watching the new fighter creation list closely. Lefty did mention that there was an instance of shady behaviour and that the manager/s in question got banned. And based on Tim Qwe's logic and excellent detective work, you and Lefty are both my alts too. I'm 100% sure I've invited your new fighters at one point, and of course, any new fighter I invite must be a multi. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 I know you two didn't, but Tim Qwe did in our creations tournament thread. I'm not accusing you of anything but really the forum community is very paranoid and "witch hunty" about multis and potential anything really. I mentioned some pretty bleak possibilities but another possibility which also happens is that a new org is making a real effort to sign just about every fighter they can and in the proccess they pick up a bunch of fighters that appear to be "shady". I think this is a case that happens more often than anything. I find more people are accused of shadiness and multi-ing than are actually doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwynd Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 You did invite one of my fighters, and I would have considered the offer had the fighter been around for a bit longer. I hadn't trained his physicals or tested for learning speed or hiddens yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted March 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 I'm 100% sure no one at 330k+ is sending out contracts quicker than I do, and those guys didn't even show up when I was searching. How often do we see noobs create all their 4 fighters in one go, and place them all in the same city? How big are the chances that 4 noobs do that within minutes of eachother 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamesnoopy Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 I'm 100% sure no one at 330k+ is sending out contracts quicker than I do, and those guys didn't even show up when I was searching. How often do we see noobs create all their 4 fighters in one go, and place them all in the same city? How big are the chances that 4 noobs do that within minutes of eachother You're just making assumption after assumption without any evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted March 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 You're just making assumption after assumption without any evidence.I'm asking people to use basic logic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamesnoopy Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 I'm asking people to use basic logic Since you are making the accusation, the burden of proof should fall on you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigLarry Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Well that surprising influx of new players in mid January and February 2018 goes way down that list, those are not the only ones posted up there, but since it s not possible to check anything out in this game then whatever... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted March 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 Since you are making the accusation, the burden of proof should fall on you.This is proof, if you want more a mod is going to have to check the id's for proxys or vpn's 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegularJohn Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 lol who cares! Â People use and abuse multis, it's no secret. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arlenbalesmma Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 lol who cares! Â People use and abuse multis, it's no secret. Well I care! I'm being accused of multi's lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTree Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 I checked when you first posted. No matching IP's 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timqwe Posted March 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 I checked when you first posted. No matching IP'sThat's what proxys/vpns are for, innit? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikkitakeda Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 I'm 100% sure no one at 330k+ is sending out contracts quicker than I do, and those guys didn't even show up when I was searching. How often do we see noobs create all their 4 fighters in one go, and place them all in the same city? How big are the chances that 4 noobs do that within minutes of eachother I wouldn't bet on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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