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#21 WhisperingDeath

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 09:37 PM

Good writeup!
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Franky Redz of Dungeon Fighting Championships in Las Vegas threatened to hold my fighter, Hater Hurter, out of a fight for a year. He used an exploit in the inactivity clause to hold him out without a fight offer for 75 days until Mike Tycoon personally intervened and stopped him.

Beware contract offers from Dungeon Fighting Championships (DFC) in Las Vegas.

#22 CardiffWanderer

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Posted 28 February 2010 - 04:53 AM

- Organisations -

- Better known as Orgs, Organisations are the glue that holds the world of MMA Tycoon together as these are the companies that put fights together. To those who are relatively new to MMA, all of these orgs should be seen as separate versions of the UFC or Strikeforce.

- Orgs are run by real people. This means you can contact them, ask questions and negotiate what happens to your fighters. It also requires the individual owners to dedicate a considerable amount of time and dedication to running a good org therefore a certain amount of tolerance is much appreciated as it is not always possible to reply to situations immediately.

- QFC -

- Quick Fighting Championship, known as the QFC is the computer generated org. It can be entered by any non-contracted fighter with less than 5 victories and can be entered by going to the "my fighters" tab and clicking on the link at the bottom of the page.

- When you enter the QFC, you enter at the weight your fighter is currently at, not what he can potentially cut to. Therefore if your fighter is 187 pounds, he will be entered into a light heavyweight bout and not a middle weight bout.

- When you enter the QFC, you have no control over who you are fighting. This has meant that new managers have faced experienced managers who's fighters have been training for months. This is a danger that all new managers should be aware of before starting one.

- It is recommended to join a human run org as soon as possible. You, the manager, has to approve any match ups, the pay is considerable better than the base QFC pay of $50 for the fight and $50 for the win and you will fight at the contracted weight.

-Joining An Org -

- When you create a fighter, he is automatically entered into a list for org owners to see that you require a contract. However you can also ask for a contract here, http://www.mmatycoon...p?showtopic=908

- Contracts -

- When joining an org there are a few things to consider. Firstly there is the pay, broken down in to a signing bonus, a wage (automatically received whenever you fight) and a win bonus. This will often be written down like this 1000/1000/1000

- As a new manager contract offers will be low, depending on city to city a new manager can expect between 300/300/300 to 500/500/500 however this is still considerable better than the QFC totals.

- The weight class may seem obvious however you have to remember that you have to be able to get under that weight limit when you fight. Therefore you need to sign at weight class that you can make, a 160lb guy won't make 145lbs weight division for instance. For more information on weight cutting look here. http://www.mmatycoon...=Cutting_weight

- Length of contract is represented in three different ways. Firstly the amount of fights, usually addressed as 3 fights for an opening contract but can be anything. This is how many fights you will have before you need a new contract however many org owners re-negotiate before the final fight of a contract.

- The second aspect is the time length of the contract, often set to the first or last day of a month. When this date is exceeded your contract as expired and you become a free agent and can look for a new contract.

- The final restraint is the inactivity clause. Inactivity Clause has been added so that fighters don't get stuck in an organisation that goes inactive. This number is in days, and means that if you haven't fought, been offered a fight or accepted a fight in that number of days you can leave the contract without being penalised. Most are between 28 and 35 days.

- The next contract may be considerable more, a 3-0-0 guy could expect anything between 750/750/750 to 1000/1000/1000 however that is your job as a manager to get the best possible deal for our fighter.

- You have two options at the end of a contract, to resign with your current org or to go into free agency again and see if anyone picks you up. This decision is personnel to you as the manager but sometimes the grass is greener and sometimes it is not.

- Other Considerations In Joining An Org -

- The most important thing to remember is that 95% of org owners in this game are brilliant, hardworking and fair people to work with that create an amazing experience however there are the odd person who can manipulate the system and are less fun to play under. A search of the forums would reveal more detail.

- The better the org, the harder the competition and the more difficult it will be to win. Learning the game is not a bad thing and being a champion in any org is a terrific achievement so you should go to a level that you feel comfortable.

- Taking and Rejecting Fights

- When you joined an org you will be offered a fight. A good org owner will match you up with another fighter of a similar level of ability however you will should not have the advantage in every aspect.

- If this is the case there is no real reason why not to reject a fight.

- However there are some extra considerations that you should check before you accept.

- Injuries - A fighter who is injured is going to perform badly and most probably lose so if the fight is going to happen in a period where you are injured you should contact the org owner to reallocate the fight.

- Cuts - A cut can be reopened and a fight can be lost due to cuts so if your fighter is still nursing such an injury you should also look to put the fight back.

- Tiredness - If your fighter has just come of a hard fight and his energy is low you should not fight immediately. You will run out of energy and most likely open yourself to a easy KO for your opponent, again look to put the fight back.

- Sometimes your org will send you a fight on records and hype comparision however this can make fights very uneven. You can be put up against someone who has better primaries and more experience and then it is up to you as the manager whether you accept it.

- These uneven fights can become win as underdogs win all the time but if you do not feel that you can accept the fight, take the time to explain why. Orgs owners appreciate it and with a sensible reasoning they will often be happy to find you another fight or give you more time to train.

- Unreasonable rejections so you only get "easy" fights may give you a good record but it will not make you popular and the best players will not be interested in you and you will lose out on the experience of MMA Tycoon.

- If you are the champion of an org you should never reject a fight. If you are the champ you are supposed to be the best that org has to offer and rejecting a fight questions that regardless.

- Losing -

- Your going to lose. Someone you hasn't lost is never going to enjoy a win.

- A fighter who loses should not be immediately cut, arguable the best fighter at this point Jin Sen lost his first 4 fights and then went on to win 17 in a row.

- Quality of opponents change and it is not unusual to go through a poor run. Sometimes this is about moving up to a new level of competition the more experienced managers have better slider or purely have trained longer. This happens and should be embraced, there is always an upturn on the way.

- Your fighter may lose a close decision that you thought was wrong and it happens. Some judges get it wrong and this is true in MMA as a whole. It's unfortunate but it is better than get on with it than have a hissy fit as that is only going to be followed by ridicule.

- Cutting a Fighter -

- You can cut a fighter at any time by pressing release on the "My Fighters" page but you have to wait 30 days to release another fighter (15 days if you are VIP).

However

- If that fighter has fights left on a contract there are some unwritten rules that should be obeyed so that you do not cause problems for org owner.

- Firstly contact the org owner telling him of your intention of cutting the fighter, don't release the fighter for 24 hours to give the owner a chance to respond.

- No owner will stop you releasing a fighter however they are likely to ask for one of two things. They may ask for the percentage of your signing bonus back that you did not complete, so if you fought 2 of 3 fights with a $300 signing bonus they may ask for $100 back.

- Most likely they will offer you a fight. Accept the fight, take him off training so the released fighter will definitely make weight and then go ahead and release the fighter. The fighter will still fight and the org owner will basically get a free fight out of him.

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#23 CardiffWanderer

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Posted 28 February 2010 - 04:53 AM

Again, alterations and corrections are much obliged.
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Posted 28 February 2010 - 01:08 PM

Excellent work M!

Might I suggest a bit more depth on the benefits of VIP though? perhaps a copy & paste or direct link from here:

http://www.mmatycoon.com/vip.php

Good of you to do this though and makes it easy for everyone to chip in with extra info etc.
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Posted 28 February 2010 - 04:41 PM

QUOTE (CardiffWanderer @ Feb 28 2010, 04:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
- Organisations -

- Better known as Orgs, Organisations are the glue that holds the world of MMA Tycoon together as these are the companies that put fights together. To those who are relatively new to MMA, all of these orgs should be seen as separate versions of the UFC or Strikeforce.

- Orgs are run by real people. This means you can contact them, ask questions and negotiate what happens to your fighters. It also requires the individual owners to dedicate a considerable amount of time and dedication to running a good org therefore a certain amount of tolerance is much appreciated as it is not always possible to reply to situations immediately.

- QFC -

- Quick Fighting Championship, known as the QFC is the computer generated org. It can be entered by any non-contracted fighter with less than 5 victories and can be entered by going to the "my fighters" tab and clicking on the link at the bottom of the page.

- When you enter the QFC, you enter at the weight your fighter is currently at, not what he can potentially cut to. Therefore if your fighter is 187 pounds, he will be entered into a light heavyweight bout and not a middle weight bout.

- When you enter the QFC, you have no control over who you are fighting. This has meant that new managers have faced experienced managers who's fighters have been training for months. This is a danger that all new managers should be aware of before starting one.

- It is recommended to join a human run org as soon as possible. You, the manager, has to approve any match ups, the pay is considerable better than the base QFC pay of $50 for the fight and $50 for the win and you will fight at the contracted weight.

-Joining An Org -

- When you create a fighter, he is automatically entered into a list for org owners to see that you require a contract. However you can also ask for a contract here, http://www.mmatycoon...p?showtopic=908

- Contracts -

- When joining an org there are a few things to consider. Firstly there is the pay, broken down in to a signing bonus, a wage (automatically received whenever you fight) and a win bonus. This will often be written down like this 1000/1000/1000

- As a new manager contract offers will be low, depending on city to city a new manager can expect between 300/300/300 to 500/500/500 however this is still considerable better than the QFC totals.

- The weight class may seem obvious however you have to remember that you have to be able to get under that weight limit when you fight. Therefore you need to sign at weight class that you can make, a 160lb guy won't make 145lbs weight division for instance. For more information on weight cutting look here. http://www.mmatycoon...=Cutting_weight

- Length of contract is represented in three different ways. Firstly the amount of fights, usually addressed as 3 fights for an opening contract but can be anything. This is how many fights you will have before you need a new contract however many org owners re-negotiate before the final fight of a contract.

- The second aspect is the time length of the contract, often set to the first or last day of a month. When this date is exceeded your contract as expired and you become a free agent and can look for a new contract.

- The final restraint is the inactivity clause. Inactivity Clause has been added so that fighters don't get stuck in an organisation that goes inactive. This number is in days, and means that if you haven't fought, been offered a fight or accepted a fight in that number of days you can leave the contract without being penalised. Most are between 28 and 35 days.

- The next contract may be considerable more, a 3-0-0 guy could expect anything between 750/750/750 to 1000/1000/1000 however that is your job as a manager to get the best possible deal for our fighter.

- You have two options at the end of a contract, to resign with your current org or to go into free agency again and see if anyone picks you up. This decision is personnel to you as the manager but sometimes the grass is greener and sometimes it is not.

- Other Considerations In Joining An Org -

- The most important thing to remember is that 95% of org owners in this game are brilliant, hardworking and fair people to work with that create an amazing experience however there are the odd person who can manipulate the system and are less fun to play under. A search of the forums would reveal more detail.

- The better the org, the harder the competition and the more difficult it will be to win. Learning the game is not a bad thing and being a champion in any org is a terrific achievement so you should go to a level that you feel comfortable.

- Taking and Rejecting Fights

- When you joined an org you will be offered a fight. A good org owner will match you up with another fighter of a similar level of ability however you will should not have the advantage in every aspect.

- If this is the case there is no real reason why not to reject a fight.

- However there are some extra considerations that you should check before you accept.

- Injuries - A fighter who is injured is going to perform badly and most probably lose so if the fight is going to happen in a period where you are injured you should contact the org owner to reallocate the fight.

- Cuts - A cut can be reopened and a fight can be lost due to cuts so if your fighter is still nursing such an injury you should also look to put the fight back.

- Tiredness - If your fighter has just come of a hard fight and his energy is low you should not fight immediately. You will run out of energy and most likely open yourself to a easy KO for your opponent, again look to put the fight back.

- Sometimes your org will send you a fight on records and hype comparision however this can make fights very uneven. You can be put up against someone who has better primaries and more experience and then it is up to you as the manager whether you accept it.

- These uneven fights can become win as underdogs win all the time but if you do not feel that you can accept the fight, take the time to explain why. Orgs owners appreciate it and with a sensible reasoning they will often be happy to find you another fight or give you more time to train.

- Unreasonable rejections so you only get "easy" fights may give you a good record but it will not make you popular and the best players will not be interested in you and you will lose out on the experience of MMA Tycoon.

- If you are the champion of an org you should never reject a fight. If you are the champ you are supposed to be the best that org has to offer and rejecting a fight questions that regardless.

- Losing -

- Your going to lose. Someone you hasn't lost is never going to enjoy a win.

- A fighter who loses should not be immediately cut, arguable the best fighter at this point Jin Sen lost his first 4 fights and then went on to win 17 in a row.

- Quality of opponents change and it is not unusual to go through a poor run. Sometimes this is about moving up to a new level of competition the more experienced managers have better slider or purely have trained longer. This happens and should be embraced, there is always an upturn on the way.

- Your fighter may lose a close decision that you thought was wrong and it happens. Some judges get it wrong and this is true in MMA as a whole. It's unfortunate but it is better than get on with it than have a hissy fit as that is only going to be followed by ridicule.

- Cutting a Fighter -

- You can cut a fighter at any time by pressing release on the "My Fighters" page but you have to wait 30 days to release another fighter (15 days if you are VIP).

However

- If that fighter has fights left on a contract there are some unwritten rules that should be obeyed so that you do not cause problems for org owner.

- Firstly contact the org owner telling him of your intention of cutting the fighter, don't release the fighter for 24 hours to give the owner a chance to respond.

- No owner will stop you releasing a fighter however they are likely to ask for one of two things. They may ask for the percentage of your signing bonus back that you did not complete, so if you fought 2 of 3 fights with a $300 signing bonus they may ask for $100 back.

- Most likely they will offer you a fight. Accept the fight, take him off training so the released fighter will definitely make weight and then go ahead and release the fighter. The fighter will still fight and the org owner will basically get a free fight out of him.


Never fails to amaze me how much merrien has to give to this game - has even put up with my iidiosyncrocies regarding "Kingdon Brunell" a genuine credit to the game!!!

Early option for most helpful manager 2010.


On the above post i think you should edit the original post and put this in there as many people wont scroll through the whole thing reading everyones replies like I.

(Ode to Blixx) I'm just saying.
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Posted 01 March 2010 - 12:06 AM

When you enter the QFC, you enter at the weight your fighter is currently at, not what he can potentially cut to. Therefore if your fighter is 187 pounds, he will be entered into a light heavyweight bout and not a middle weight bout.

^ I beg to differ this one, I have a 217lbs guy with a cut to 199lbs and he is in 3 light heavyweight QFC and never a heavyweight.

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#27 CardiffWanderer

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 12:23 AM

QUOTE (android17 @ Mar 1 2010, 12:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When you enter the QFC, you enter at the weight your fighter is currently at, not what he can potentially cut to. Therefore if your fighter is 187 pounds, he will be entered into a light heavyweight bout and not a middle weight bout.

^ I beg to differ this one, I have a 217lbs guy with a cut to 199lbs and he is in 3 light heavyweight QFC and never a heavyweight.

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Perhaps i have failed to explain that properly.

What happens is that the cut weight not the total weight is important when you book a fight in the qfc. So if your fighter was at 60% energy, he would be at roughly 208lbs on the cut weight and would be booked for a heavyweight contest while if he is at 100% where the cut weight is at 199lbs he will be put in the for light heavyweight fight.
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#28 CardiffWanderer

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 12:30 AM

QUOTE (NoX81 @ Feb 28 2010, 01:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Excellent work M!

Might I suggest a bit more depth on the benefits of VIP though? perhaps a copy & paste or direct link from here:

http://www.mmatycoon.com/vip.php

Good of you to do this though and makes it easy for everyone to chip in with extra info etc.


The whole thing needs to be tinkered with so i plan to add and changes things as i go through, i will definitely add the link though
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#29 CardiffWanderer

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 12:44 AM

QUOTE (Minatour @ Feb 28 2010, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Never fails to amaze me how much merrien has to give to this game - has even put up with my iidiosyncrocies regarding "Kingdon Brunell" a genuine credit to the game!!!

Early option for most helpful manager 2010.


On the above post i think you should edit the original post and put this in there as many people wont scroll through the whole thing reading everyones replies like I.

(Ode to Blixx) I'm just saying.


I think I will do that now as someone did not find this part today and ask questions addressed. So I will put it all on the first page. Its going to be a very long first page.
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Posted 01 March 2010 - 01:25 PM

QUOTE (CardiffWanderer @ Mar 1 2010, 01:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Perhaps i have failed to explain that properly.

What happens is that the cut weight not the total weight is important when you book a fight in the qfc. So if your fighter was at 60% energy, he would be at roughly 208lbs on the cut weight and would be booked for a heavyweight contest while if he is at 100% where the cut weight is at 199lbs he will be put in the for light heavyweight fight.


Oh now I get it = =
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#31 Hallty

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 01:53 PM

Nice guide, this will help a lot of people new to the game.
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#32 manaman

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 06:35 PM

Feel free to add elements from my guide, which focuses more on training, than anything:
http://docs.google.c...M...mJkbQ&hl=en

Good luck!
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#33 djohn

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 10:08 PM

Wow Cardiff! nice addition to the community.
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...u're my favorite manager in the game...


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...he acts and talks like he has been #1 manager since the game has started -- the best there is - the best there was and the best there ever will be...

#34 PSUMike

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 02:16 AM

Damn, that is a ton of info. Nicely done!
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 12:57 PM

awesome, awesome work...u da man!!

seriously, dont think theres a more helpful manager out there
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#36 CardiffWanderer

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 04:02 PM

i was wondering why post had been deleted for a minute there but being pinned is something i find a great honour. Thank You whoever did it.
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Posted 12 March 2010 - 03:55 AM

holy shit cant believe i read the whole thing
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Posted 15 March 2010 - 09:07 AM

Very nice!
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Posted 20 March 2010 - 03:34 PM

sweet
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Posted 13 April 2010 - 08:30 PM

Thanks very much, after reading your post I feel a little smarter
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