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Who cares about the IOC. They made a quick decision based on political correctness and money. Dr Ben on Junkie says the same thing. He said there is no studies on this to go by and to allow it without knowing all the facts and put people at risk would be a huge mistake.

 

i dont know...a lot of people care? i would assume a lot of people care about the IOC's stance on this. are you saying dr. benjamin of mmajunkie is someone that knows more on this topic than the IOC? is dr. benjamin a specialist in transgender studies? pretty sure he isnt. so once again...you know nothing and should just pump the brakes and stop yourself from looking dumber than you already are.

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she wouldn't have had the same principles if she identified as a woman most of her life. we know nothing of her past so it's not something that can be commented on. she meets the retirements of the IOC and NCAA... but I'm sure two red necks and a pot head know better.

 

I'm not taking a stance on it quite yet because I don't know enough about it to really comment. I can see the reasoning for being against it...100% there's an argument for it not to be done. bone density and structure... I don't know if she's closer to a man than a woman. the issue I have is the level of ignorance mitrione showed when going on his idiotic rant. as I said... I'm glad he got suspended. no one should be allowed to be that dumb and ignorant without consequence.

 

this thread has shown the same level of ignorance... but we are dealing with red necks.

 

It isn't a she. It isn't a female. It was born a male, with a cock and balls. It doesn't have a menstrual cycle. It can't give birth to a child. IT is NOT a woman, and he shouldn't be allowed to hit females because of some surgery or operation. Period. No operation, medication, or surgery is going to change the fact that he was born a man. The transgender transformation/surgery/operation shouldn't even exist imo, but that's irrelevant to the subject of a man beating on women legally aka "professionally".

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you continually saying "it" pretty much just solidifies how ignorant you are in the topic...it isnt even worth it to get into it with you. it would be like me telling you that weed gives you cancer or something. youre most likely a homophobe as well. why argue? not worth it.

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I support Matt's right to his opinion that she shouldn't be allowed to fight, but calling her a sociopathic disgusting freak without knowing the person is a bit much imo.

Agreed

 

There are plenty of people who think homosexuals are freaks....... Others think fat people are disgusting....... Black people, sick people Muslims,,,, etc....etc...

 

Those people really want to express their opinion about it, but don't often do so publicly these days, because if they do, they get punished by law and/or other less prejudice members of society.....

Hence, while it's cool he expresses that he thinks Fallon shouldn't be allowed to fight women (his opinion), it's not cool at all calling her a disgusting freak... (his opinion, but also a defamation of character)

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you continually saying "it" pretty much just solidifies how ignorant you are in the topic...it isnt even worth it to get into it with you. it would be like me telling you that weed gives you cancer or something. youre most likely a homophobe as well. why argue? not worth it.

 

Funny you assume I'm homophobic when what we're talking about has nothin to do with gays and lesbians. No matter what you do, if you are born a man you will never be a woman, even if you go through a transgender transformation, you're still a man. We're not talking about hermaphrodites, we're talking about a man who had underwent some fucked up surgery, and is now trying to fight women professionally.

 

...and if you think that it's okay for a man to go through a transgender transformation and assault women, you're an idiot.

 

I think Fallon Fox deserves any comments in his direction. He might be the nicest dude in the world, but if you're going to surgically remove your dick and try to fight women professionally, you deserve all the judgmental criticism you receive, and yes, you might be a sick, twisted, sociopath for wanting to do that.

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youre speaking like she specifically got the surgery to fight women, which probably isnt the case at all. youre just throwing stuff out there to sound like an even bigger idiot. you should stick to talking about how you got locked up and are cool for it, instead of speaking on a topic you clearly know very little about. i think you should go do some reading on the subject. spend a quarter of your time reading about this topic as you do on why weed is awesome and amazing...i'm sure you'll learn a lot.

 

am i wrong about you being a homophobe btw? it would suit your internet persona well. ive found over the years that the fake gangster types tend to lean towards being homophobes...i think they think it makes them look tougher or something. i assume you fall into that mold. am i wrong?

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youre speaking like she specifically got the surgery to fight women, which probably isnt the case at all. youre just throwing stuff out there to sound like an even bigger idiot. you should stick to talking about how you got locked up and are cool for it, instead of speaking on a topic you clearly know very little about. i think you should go do some reading on the subject. spend a quarter of your time reading about this topic as you do on why weed is awesome and amazing...i'm sure you'll learn a lot.

 

am i wrong about you being a homophobe btw? it would suit your internet persona well. ive found over the years that the fake gangster types tend to lean towards being homophobes...i think they think it makes them look tougher or something. i assume you fall into that mold. am i wrong?

 

You're a fucking moron. End of story.

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youre afraid of things you dont understand..it's ok. this is why you have so much hate in your heart. another staple of the "i'm a hard ass on the internet" type. thank you for your time.

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youre afraid of things you dont understand..it's ok. this is why you have so much hate in your heart. another staple of the "i'm a hard ass on the internet" type. thank you for your time.

 

You type a lot of bullshit.

 

youre speaking like she specifically got the surgery to fight women, which probably isnt the case at all.

 

Does it matter?

 

I mean really, does it matter if he got the surgery to specifically fight women or not? I'm not speaking like that's what he did, I don't care why he became a transsexual, but the fact of the matter is that he is a man, and he's trying to fight women professionally, and whether you agree with or not, it's wrong.

 

instead of speaking on a topic you clearly know very little about. i think you should go do some reading on the subject.

  1. Do transsexual "women" have a menstrual cycle?
     
  2. Can transsexual "women" give birth to children?
     
  3. Do transsexual "women" have a uterus?

I think you need to stop typing out of your ass before you make assumptions, because I have enough common sense to know that they're genetically a man - and will always be a man - regardless of any surgery they undergo.

 

am i wrong about you being a homophobe btw?

 

You are wrong, and for making that statement you're a moron.

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Funny you assume I'm homophobic when what we're talking about has nothin to do with gays and lesbians. No matter what you do, if you are born a man you will never be a woman, even if you go through a transgender transformation, you're still a man. We're not talking about hermaphrodites, we're talking about a man who had underwent some fucked up surgery, and is now trying to fight women professionally.

 

...and if you think that it's okay for a man to go through a transgender transformation and assault women, you're an idiot.

 

I think Fallon Fox deserves any comments in his direction. He might be the nicest dude in the world, but if you're going to surgically remove your dick and try to fight women professionally, you deserve all the judgmental criticism you receive, and yes, you might be a sick, twisted, sociopath for wanting to do that.

Lets flip this for a second.

 

Should a woman turned male be allowed to fight men?

Should she/he fight women?

 

Personally i would love to see Fallon fight Cyborg,, I think Fallon would get KO'd fairly quickly.

A career-roided woman v.s. an surgically modified Unic on Estrogen.....

Very interesting actually.

 

You are making a lot of "statements" in your posts, while i wasn't aware you were an expert on the biological subject.

I'm not an expert and haven't made up my mind yet because of that fact....

 

I can't see this as simple as a half a man "beating up a woman",, that just sounds silly to me...

Most of these female fighters would fairly easily beat up any non fight trained man,, twice their weight and many male fighters at their own weight..

 

What i'm saying is,, this isn't really as "black and white" as you portray it.

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You type a lot of bullshit.

 

 

 

Does it matter?

 

I mean really, does it matter if he got the surgery to specifically fight women or not? I'm not speaking like that's what he did, I don't care why he became a transsexual, but the fact of the matter is that he is a man, and he's trying to fight women professionally, and whether you agree with or not, it's wrong.

  1. Do transsexual "women" have a menstrual cycle?
     
  2. Can transsexual "women" give birth to children?
     
  3. Do transsexual "women" have a uterus?

I think you need to stop typing out of your ass before you make assumptions, because I have enough common sense to know that they're genetically a man - and will always be a man - regardless of any surgery they undergo.

 

 

 

You are wrong, and for making that statement you're a moron.

 

 

never said i agreed or disagreed with it. i admitted to actually not knowing enough about the topic to take a stance, but it's clearly out of line to call her a freak, buffalo bill, or an it. youve done no different than mitrione. youve judged someone while blatantly knowing nothing about transgender people, the procedures, or anything within the topic at all. she isnt a man, she doesnt have the body of a man at all anymore. the procedure wouldnt exist at all if it didnt change her body. she identified as a woman clearly before getting the surgery, and went through with it because she saw herself as a woman. i dont think she got up one day and said "hmm think i wanna punch some bitches in the face today...better get some surgery done." once again, do a little reading on it.

 

i was wrong? that's too bad. youre hatefulness made it seem like there'd be a correlation there. i guess i should be happy that you arent a total ignorant moron. congrats.

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he wasnt cut just suspended --- im wondering if fman was really fwoman one time since he is taking this to heart :shades:

 

not taking it to heart at all. the fact that you have proven to be stupid several times on this forum over the last few years is what bothers me. youre old and not in touch with society today. i feel bad for you.

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Lets flip this for a second.

 

Should a woman turned male be allowed to fight men?

Should she/he fight women?

 

Personally i would love to see Fallon fight Cyborg,, I think Fallon would get KO'd fairly quickly.

A career-roided woman v.s. an surgically modified Unic on Estrogen.....

Very interesting actually.

 

You are making a lot of "statements" in your posts, while i wasn't aware you were an expert on the biological subject.

I'm not an expert and haven't made up my mind yet because of that fact....

 

I can't see this as simple as a half a man "beating up a woman",, that just sounds silly to me...

Most of these female fighters would fairly easily beat up any non fight trained man,, twice their weight and many male fighters at their own weight..

 

What i'm saying is,, this isn't really as "black and white" as you portray it.

 

No, it really is as "black and white" as I portray it. It's as simple as looking into a persons DNA/genes. Sex Chromosomes will reveal if you are a man or a woman.

 

I don't claim to be an expert, but unlike FMan suggested, I am not talking out of my ass. I've done enough research on this subject to know that a man will always be a man regardless of what surgery he has done.

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No, it really is as "black and white" as I portray it. It's as simple as looking into a persons DNA/genes. Sex Chromosomes will reveal if you are a man or a woman.

 

**irrelevance clip**. I've done enough research on this subject to know that a man will always be a man regardless of what surgery he has done.

So, this isn't about hurting someone "weaker", but about the moral issue of "you shouldn't hit a woman"?

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you arent talking out of your ass? you had me fooled bro.

 

Not entirely out my ass, no. I've done enough research on it, I found my answer, and there's no need to do further research.

 

Do you know anything about the sex chromosomes (pair #23) that identifies us as a male or female? If you did, you'd realize that transgenders still have the same sex chromosomes they were born with.

 

So, this isn't about hurting someone "weaker", but about the moral issue of "you shouldn't hit a woman"?

 

It's about, and I repeat, a man should not be allowed to fight women professionally. Regardless of what surgery he undergoes.

 

When addressing the issue of Fallon Fox and his MMA fighting career, we're addressing a man fighting women. We're not addressing a hermaphrodite. He was born a man, and will always be a man.

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Lol At Fman not knowing enough to have an opinion but attacking everyone on one side of the debate. Fucking tool! You are doing the same thing as all "us rednecks".

 

Also we don't know why he has the sex change. There are martial artist who dedicate their life to MA's. It sounds crazy to think someone would do this to fight woman but sex change itself sounds even more crazy. Where was this guys MMA career when he was a man and in his prime? If he just wanted to compete or fight why wasn't he when he was young and a male?

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well, if you want to beat up women and not get in trouble. cut your nuts off, call yourself a women and move to florida and you will be ok. this is stairght bs. glad i dont spend a dime on ufc anymore. its a joke. there should be a boyscout and mitrino should be back to fighting. you born a man is a man. cut your nuts and stick off. still a man. so we have a man fight a man not a women. that is illegal in ny so you would be facing jail time so how is this dude fighting women. freak show.

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i know i'm in the right because i stand on the opposite side of the argument then braincunter. i'm attacking your ignorance, not anyones stance that she shouldnt be allowed to fight. i can admit to not knowing enough to not take a stance on it. i dont pretend to have the answers like you, when you clearly dont.

 

where was she when she was a man? who knows. again, youre pretty much making baseless accusations and pretend to know what her mindset was all along. but what else is new? ive known you for years unfortunately, before this game, and you were always dumb. i should stop being offended by your dumbness...its jsut hard to adjust to that level of dumb that you present.

 

i guess i lied about stepping out of the thread.

 

and yes, you are a redneck. one of lower intelligence than usual.

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I am the type who usually doesn't care what others do as long as it doesn't hurt others. I don't smoke weed, but no one is hurt if you do. In this case women are at risk and could easily get hurt, and she argued against at least warning them prior to a fight.

 

Look at her body and you can see the muscle is still there. No amount of estrogen will re-shape bones. Density a little. Men naturally have smaller hips an broader shoulders. This allows them to support most their muscle mass in their upper body and as a side effect helps hit harder. That is an advantage she will never lose.

 

The hate speech is not helpful or needed, but I still disagree with her fighting women.

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