Jackking Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 What if you have a fighter with 150 intelligence wouldn't it show over granite chin even if your chin was 130? No, that's not the way the hierarchy works. The hidden with the highest absolute numerical value is NOT what will always show. Rather the hidden that will show is the highest one that the fighter has in the hierarchy. If he pops intelligence, it means that chin, KO power, and confidence are all average or below average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10thPlanetKT Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 No, that's not the way the hierarchy works. The hidden with the highest absolute numerical value is NOT what will always show. Rather the hidden that will show is the highest one that the fighter has in the hierarchy. If he pops intelligence, it means that chin, KO power, and confidence are all average or below average. Have there been any top 100 fighters with the intelligence hidden in tale of the the in the past? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegularJohn Posted March 20, 2020 Report Share Posted March 20, 2020 Have there been any top 100 fighters with the intelligence hidden in tale of the tpe in the past? Historians tell that in the early days of the game this would've been possible and it probably happened but I would speculate (with no basis at all) that in the past 5 years this hasn't happened. if it did it would´ve been a real specific situation (e.g. Island fighter/someone exploiting QFC/someone can crushing in epic fashion). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10thPlanetKT Posted March 21, 2020 Report Share Posted March 21, 2020 Yea I think someone would need to be good at slider fu and predictions to make it top 100 with that kind of fighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antary Posted March 21, 2020 Report Share Posted March 21, 2020 Have there been any top 100 fighters with the intelligence hidden in tale of the the in the past? You should check the thread where people posted the hiddens of their retired fighters. I remember some of them having really mediocre hiddens but still making it high up the ranks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actionjackson Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 bumping for noobs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 bumping for boobs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 bumping for noobs Now THIS is the spin and win farming that we actually love and respect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortstacker Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 Was a very good read, I wouldn't have located it without Mr. Jackson pointing it out! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actionjackson Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 Now THIS is the spin and win farming that we actually love and respect Was a very good read, I wouldn't have located it without Mr. Jackson pointing it out! https://youtu.be/MYxAiK6VnXw Sorry TJ, off topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJMitchell Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 I'll allow it Have pinned the thread. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLeader Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 For @GBK16 : https://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilemanager.php?FID=363987 KO Power on the left ; solid chin on the right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMADanaWhite Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Hello greetings, I am new and I saw this forum and I loved it, but I have a question. They speak of LEFT and RIGHT but are not these three skills that you should point out when creating a fighter? If someone can explain to me what LEFT and RIGHT mean when choosing three, which would be the left and the right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xyel Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 22 minutes ago, MMADanaWhite said: Hello greetings, I am new and I saw this forum and I loved it, but I have a question. They speak of LEFT and RIGHT but are not these three skills that you should point out when creating a fighter? If someone can explain to me what LEFT and RIGHT mean when choosing three, which would be the left and the right? Here's a visual guide: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMADanaWhite Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Thanks friend I had that doubt, the other thing is, three are chosen when creating your fighter, but if the three influence the hidden skills or only the first two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsquirrel Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 All the 3 things you pick at creation adds to its respective hidden. The ToT will only maybe give you a hint about one or two of them, it will never show you everything about a fighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjrfin Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 hour ago, MMADanaWhite said: Thanks friend I had that doubt, the other thing is, three are chosen when creating your fighter, but if the three influence the hidden skills or only the first two? 10 minutes ago, jjsquirrel said: All the 3 things you pick at creation adds to its respective hidden. Which also means that you aren't guaranteed to get what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMADanaWhite Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 ok then it means that the hierarchy is more or less like this. Chin Natural KO Heart Self confidence Cuts Experience Intelligence Fast Learner Injury proneness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMADanaWhite Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 These two really don't see the point in it. Fast Learner Injury proneness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMADanaWhite Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Are you with which of the physics is it related? Self confidence Cuts Experience Intelligence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjrfin Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 hour ago, MMADanaWhite said: ok then it means that the hierarchy is more or less like this. Chin Natural KO Heart Self confidence Cuts Experience Intelligence Fast Learner Injury proneness This particular thread is about testing a fighter, and finding out how good or bad his hiddens are. So, the work "hierarchy" in this thread is about in which order this information appears on the Tale of tape page. Your hierarchy list is more about which hiddens are the best and most useful (and for that purpose it's pretty good). 1 hour ago, MMADanaWhite said: These two really don't see the point in it. Fast Learner Injury proneness I've picked Fast Learner on creation a few times. But you're right, choosing it over the other better options isn't good. But, about half of the fighters created will be below anything acceptable in learning speed. 1 hour ago, MMADanaWhite said: Are you with which of the physics is it related? Self confidence Cuts Experience Intelligence I don't quite understand what you're asking ? There are no other skills that replace low hiddens. If your fighter has for example low confidence, there is nothing that can be done about it. If he has a bad chin, no amount of striking defense will save him. Experience will improve as a fighter fights and ages. It does play a part on how the sim engine works, but we don't know exactly how much of difference it makes. But most would agree that it matters very little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMADanaWhite Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Do not explain well to me, what I mean is that each hidden attribute is related to the physical issue, for example if the hidden one is KO POWER it is related to force, come to that I mean. Self confidence Cuts Experience Intelligence these to which they will be related, Agility Flexibility Speed Strength Conditioning Balance to which will those be related? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackking Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 59 minutes ago, MMADanaWhite said: Do not explain well to me, what I mean is that each hidden attribute is related to the physical issue, for example if the hidden one is KO POWER it is related to force, come to that I mean. Self confidence Cuts Experience Intelligence these to which they will be related, Agility Flexibility Speed Strength Conditioning Balance to which will those be related? There is NO relation from the hiddens/TOTT to the physicals like you are suggesting, with the one exception that increasing Strength can sometimes cause KO power to show up on the TOTT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMADanaWhite Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 There is one last question, which ones to keep and which ones to discard, so my question is when creating a fighter and fight with him once, how do we know if we keep him or let him go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMADanaWhite Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Which of these do they consider decent to stay with the fighter and not lose sight of him. Left Insanely Flexible Granite Chin Cardio Machine KO Power ( Can Improve With Training ) Very Quick Very Strong Big Right Hand & Good Chin ( not sure which is higher ) Cuts Easy Big Heart Experienced Right Granite Chin Good Gas Tank Knockout Power ( Can Improve With Training ) Solid Chin & Heavy Handed ( not sure which is higher ) Powerful Very Confident Determined Tends to Cut Intelligent Inexperienced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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