Question on training.

[Ikkitakeda]

I have two fighters in open gyms as there isn't many gyms available in their area but due to such high training in so many coaches I have them in high training class days when those days are available. How effective is sparring days with a bunch of people vs high coaching sessions like coach sessions averaging 5+ before my fighters vs sparring sessions that are 10-18?

[TPowell]

5+ people in a training class is way past overkill IMO. I would look at getting out of that gym and even that city if that is the case.

[Bwang]

Sparring with large groups is good on the other hand.

[Ikkitakeda]

Will my secondary skills go up or just the actual wrestling, bjj, boxing, and mt with sparring? If so with such high classes would it be best for me to stick with sparring and like circuit training with such high classes, or sparring and individual like wieghts, cardio, and yoga? Moving not really an option as I am a new player and it would cost too much.

[NorthernNinjas]

Will my secondary skills go up or just the actual wrestling, bjj, boxing, and mt with sparring? If so with such high classes would it be best for me to stick with sparring and like circuit training with such high classes, or sparring and individual like wieghts, cardio, and yoga? Moving not really an option as I am a new player and it would cost too much.

 

Your secondaries will go up a tiny bit, but not enough for any substantial gains.

 

I'd stick with sparring and circuit training (if the class size is below 4). If the circuit training is crowded, hit the weights and sprinkle in some yoga classes, especially if you have a BJJ guy until the class sizes get a bit smaller

[Ikkitakeda]

Well one of them is a project fighter. So i haven't really set him into any one thing primary wise. The other guy is a wrestler with a minor in bjj.

[YerMaw]

I'm guessing it's the two guys in this gym (http://www.mmatycoon.com/gympublic.php?gmid=3715) you are talking about? If so yeah I'd just ignore training with coaches unless class sizes get substantially smaller - your best bet would be to focus on the physicals that don't need a trainer (as northernninjas said cardio/weights plus the occasional yoga), sparring later on when their physicals are up to scratch.

 

Although this guy I'd just replace when you can: http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=325500 - everyone does builds like this to begin with (all my first guys were like this as well) but the min max approach is much better for fighter development. If you need any tips on fighter creation just PM me.

[Ikkitakeda]

Yes that is the two guys and that one I am going to fight with just to see his hidden and if it looks like it may be ok I plan to train him straight for 3 months before signing a contract and fighting with him. Probably will call on you though.

[YerMaw]

If he rolls great hiddens then fair enough just one thing to bear in mind is fighters do have a cap and certain types of training do increase secondaries you may want minimal skill points in.

 

For example: clinchwork is the classic one because it also trains knees/elbows which a lot of people don't use at all - hence why people will advise putting 110 points into clinchwork at the start. This minimises the amount of training you have to do to get clinchwork up to elite levels and therefore minimising unnecessary points into elbows/knees.

 

Useful to think about the sort of training they will have access to as well: if you've got the cash/gym access for high quality training then 18 yr olds w/ 110 conditioning will maximise training gains - if you only have access to basic tier gyms then 25 year olds with minimum skills in the stuff you can train without a coach (i.e. conditioning/strength/flexibility) is the way to go.

 

There's other things to consider as well (e.g. training what secondaries increases which primaries etc.) but that's the general jist of it.

[Ikkitakeda]

So when I go VIP instead of the free trial I am in, in about 10 days should I go gym so I have access to quality or training, or would that bankrupt me and be bad?

[TPowell]

So when I go VIP instead of the free trial I am in, in about 10 days should I go gym so I have access to quality or training, or would that bankrupt me and be bad?

 

 

There are public gyms out there that you can get some decent 2-3 person classes with. I would start there. Research the gyms on highstreet.

[Ikkitakeda]

 

 

There are public gyms out there that you can get some decent 2-3 person classes with. I would start there. Research the gyms on highstreet.

Yeah there is but not in Sydney. There is one where Buddy is at in Las Vegas that has the 8 trainers but 9 fighters. Downside is there is no mt trainer though. I did ask if he will add one.

[TPowell]

Yeah there is but not in Sydney. There is one where Buddy is at in Las Vegas that has the 8 trainers but 9 fighters. Downside is there is no mt trainer though. I did ask if he will add one.

 

Look at potentially moving him to another city with better gyms. I'm running into this same issue since I haven't been able to buy a private gym yet.

[Bwang]

Sydney and a few other places are mostly empty unfortunately. The bigger cities are NY, LV, LA, London. Look at the various highstreets to decide where's best, then change base with your fighter(s).

[Ikkitakeda]

Sydney and a few other places are mostly empty unfortunately. The bigger cities are NY, LV, LA, London. Look at the various highstreets to decide where's best, then change base with your fighter(s).

How do you change manager base?