joseppe Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Why does the TOTT change depending which side im on or am i just being stupid & its just a case of them changing over time with training? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixFootPenguin Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 From my understanding you have 2 different hiddens one for each side. I do have two guys with double granite chin however most fighters have two different hiddens and it is normal. Though some do change over time like one of my fighters one the right used to say solid chin and now it says good gas tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseppe Posted October 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Thanks for the reply. Does that mean if say on the left i have granite chin(just an example) but it doesnt show on the right then he loses granite chin when hes fights from the right & just gains whatever it was replaced by? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwang Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 No, not at all. The two sides are different just for interests sake. It doesn't mean he loses his granite chin, nor does it mean he has a double granite chin! It's just extra information. There's a hierarchy of which hidden is displayed. For example as the tall penguin says, his fighter used to say good chin and now it says good gas tank. The good chin is still there, but it's been covered up IN THE DESCRIPTION by his cardio being over a certain value, exceptional maybe, or sensational. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imcool Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 You definitely don't get 2 different hiddens. The hidden hierarchy is different for each side, that's all. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseppe Posted October 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Thanks for the replies. I was just reading up on it & my confusion was i thought you only got the 3 you picked but as i now see it we get them all but the 3 get an extra bonus so they could still be worse than the others & all 10 are just a value of 0-150. I hope thats correct 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwang Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Thanks for the replies. I was just reading up on it & my confusion was i thought you only got the 3 you picked but as i now see it we get them all but the 3 get an extra bonus so they could still be worse than the others & all 10 are just a value of 0-150. I hope thats correct That's totally right. The three you tick get a bonus 30 points each, but they are all randomly generated numbers between 0 and 150, so it takes a number of fights to try and figure out roughly what's what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseppe Posted October 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just another question are all hiddens linked to your stats? Cardio going with gas tank makes sense but lets say determined without knowing id say thats a stand alone as youd either be determined or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwang Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just another question are all hiddens linked to your stats? Cardio going with gas tank makes sense but lets say determined without knowing id say thats a stand alone as youd either be determined or not.Determined isn't linked to your stats no.Good gas tank/cardio machine isn't really a hidden. It's a description of your stamina. Similarly you might see Fast, Powerful, or Insanely Flexible. These relate to your physical attributes. Experience is a hidden that works a bit like intelligence (which also might pop up in that third section of the TOTT) and is a value that increases the more fights the fighter has. KO power sometimes appears when a fighter's strength is built up. Lethal high kicks can appear too, which also means KO power. Heart and confidence don't change over a fighter's career, but their chin can get worse with time and damage taken. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseppe Posted October 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Thanks for all the info much appreciated 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imcool Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Thanks for all the info much appreciated You should look into getting a Mentor. Lots of guys here who are willing to help a new player out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 http://www.mmatycoon.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=48564 Check out this thread. Talks about what you are asking about. Sometimes certain hiddens appear on left or right depending on your opponents hiddens. IDK exactly but it changes based off of who you are facing and has something to do with the hierarchy. Not sure which side means what but that was what we were trying to explore and compile information about before people abandoned the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseppe Posted October 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Cheers Lefty thats the thread i came across last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeF Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 What your fighter shows on TOTT has nothing to do with the opponent he is facing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 What your fighter shows on TOTT has nothing to do with the opponent he is facing. Hey nice information, thanks so much for that mr Kendrick sir! That's not what I said though. I'm saying you can show a certain hidden on the right and face another opponent and show it on the left next time against that opponent. Rematching that same opponent the TOTT will look the same and still hiddens appear in the same order because of the opponents hiddens and the hierarchy of hiddens involved. http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterfightcommentary.php?FID=311501 Check out this fighters TOTT of his whole career: Good chin on left some days and Solid Chin other days against different opponents. But isn't solid chin better than good chin? Why yes one is better than the other yet this fighter shows solid chin against fighters with higher chin than him and solid chin other times. What is the reason for that? Randomness or is it because of the hiddens his opponents posess vs his own? IDK. Listen if you know something then tell us because we'd love to know. Telling people "no you're wrong" doesn't make you look smart. And if you're not sure then like myself say "I am not 100% sure". But all this nay saying with no actual development or answers is dumb to me. It's better to have people saying "this is possible" than someone acting like a know-it-all saying "no you're wrong, stop posting information if you don't know because my universe is run in absolutes and that's all I know". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeF Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Solid chin is the same as good chin. Good chin shows on the left, Solid chin shows on the right. Really nothing to do with the opponent you are fighting. It is the same as big heart and determined, very confident and self confident, etc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageMMa Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 That's totally right. The three you tick get a bonus 30 points each, but they are all randomly generated numbers between 0 and 150, so it takes a number of fights to try and figure out roughly what's what. Right? I was just telling someone that you can check the granite chin, fast learner, or natural power and still only have 30/150 points for what you chose, you can pop granite chin even if you never checked the granite chin box, your guy could get lucky and pop 150/150 granite chin naturally and at that point you wasted those extra 30 points, I still click that box every time regardless though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 There's a chance, haven't tested it myself, but injury or injury proneness might be backwards. When you retire fighter and reveal hiddens we are showed a stat called "injury proneness" and the higher it is, the more injured your fighter gets. A roll of a 1 would be best, least injured fighter. But if you select never gets injured, does it add 30 points to injury proneness or does it subtract it from the total? Could easily be tested but I'm not forking up the VIP days to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBK16 Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 Injury Proneness is probably backwards. A couple of my fighters who I know were extremely injury prone (16 days injury post fight standard) had scores of 140/150 and 143/150. I'd say most likely it subtracts from the total , but for all we know could be fucked up and actually make them more injury prone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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