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#21 Tev

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 03:07 AM

Everyone just needs to donate
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#22 joseppe

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 03:11 AM

Everyone just needs to donate

yeah but what share price i mean $200 is insane lol


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Posted 17 February 2019 - 07:13 AM

Before the bathroom it was moving house, before that it was having a baby. I mean I understand the guy got other things that need to come before running this game as it is not his main income source but more of a side thing. But those other things won't stop coming. Mike you need to make a more realistic plan. For me it's not the lack of updates killing my motivation, it's more the broken promises. Weekly updates? :unsure:


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#24 Ramirez

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 01:19 PM

 

 

 

I think what people want more than anything is a dedicated owner.  Someone that makes them feel like he cares and is invested in the game. 

 

 

why would any of this matter to anybodys enjoyment of the game? when i flick on Fifa or Red Dead i'm not thinking that i want the owner of the game to be joining in...


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Posted 17 February 2019 - 03:35 PM

I think this is a common reoccurrence. SteelPenn creates a thread about how there needs to a change in leadership in the game. A bunch of people comment in favor or not, sometimes Mike even comments on it. The thread stalls or gets locked. Six months later SteelPenn creates another thread about it.
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Posted 17 February 2019 - 06:53 PM

Everyone just needs to donate

 

the developer needs to develop

 

 

why would any of this matter to anybodys enjoyment of the game? when i flick on Fifa or Red Dead i'm not thinking that i want the owner of the game to be joining in...

 
Thing is, you get significant FIFA updates every year, and constantly throughout each one's run-cycle.

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#27 Lefty

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 06:56 PM

Everything in the game I mentioned is more or less identical in terms of strikes landed and where the fights take place, they claim it is based on "fightnomics" which is a book... 

My point in mentioning this is that if that company (Prey Studios) were to take over this browser game they would not be making any changes or updates that "break" this game because they have an identical game with the exact same concept and goals. Why would they all of a sudden make head kicks land 100% of the time and all of a sudden only kickers are OP? Again their game is based on the same philosophy of MMA and the statistics involved and is very well balanced. It has 10 times more users AND these number are not inflated at all. If anything they will make this game nothing but better. 

But at the same time they likely wouldn't want to buy this game as it is technically, and no offense, but it is a "piece of shit" in comparison.

That does not mean I do not like this game anymore! I love MMAT but the world is changing and there are games upon games coming out every day. These guys are probably way beyond this point to even use anything this games has. Or maybe they can. If they can then let Mike discuss with them. For all we know Mike is already involved with this company and he is the one who founded the game!

 

(If you want to know what to look for it is called: MMA Manager by Prey Studios)


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#28 Mario.Jay

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 07:07 PM

the developer needs to develop


I'm probably not the only one who contacted Mike. But I have not received any response at all
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#29 Rei

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 07:36 PM

are you guys not enjoying the game? for me this is the best game i've ever played and i'm not sure what kind of changes people want implemented. it's brilliant as it is and i'm all up for the odd update but i'm still having fun playing this 5 and a half years after i started!

what changes specifically would make this better? more people playing for sure but it is quite a niche game so it will never have huge numbers...

 

A problem I have with it is that by buying VIP we are essentially subscribing to the game, and when you usually subscribe to things you get updates or constant materials etc. For example, with Netflix and streaming services you get new media constantly added, with magazines you get regular issues, and with online games (MMO, MOBA, BR) you get consistent updates and improvements. We are currently subscribing just to be able to play the game (non-vip isn't even worth it), and haven't had any meaningful updates in years. It's all fun and games when people mock the additions like the belt cabinet, but due to the absence of new things to keep the players interested and the disinterest of the owner, people leave and the game becomes a shadow of what it could be.

 

I am personally enjoying playing at the moment, but that's because I have spent years building my characters and their legacies. Engagement with the community through forums, in-game and externally via shit like discord is what keeps me going though honestly. I am just personally upset that we aren't being heard. People have asked since 2014 to be able to train on Sundays, suggested different tactics per round since 2009, requested takedown option / tactics since 2016, and wanted one-day tournaments (QFC style) since 2015, and the list goes on.

 

It's all so tiresome.

 

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But I love MMA and I love this game, so I'll play until its completely dead, whatever happens.


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#30 SteelPenn

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 09:56 PM

I think we are getting away from the goal. We are not trying to take the game from Mike or Replace Mike. My idea allows Mike to keep control of the game with no changes to his current role now. It does allow us as members to buy shares to hold with no return on the money allowing Mike to invest in the game developement. 

 

We would keep track of the shares sold and funds openly in these forums for all to see what is being worked on. Through Mike, game members would be hired to work on upgrades and updates for us all.

 

Mike gets 20% of the 80 shares sold with 80% of the money from the shares sold going to our upgrades then Mike gets 20% of the games profits with 80% of the games profits going straight to updates / upgrades and development. 

 

 

This would allow Mike to work on the bathroom or whatever and us to work on our game. 

 

 

 

Lets be Tycoons. 


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Posted 17 February 2019 - 10:28 PM

yeah man 80 members are definitely gonna shill out hundreds of dollars for shares in a failing niche text-based browser game, this is a great idea and will definitely work


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Posted 17 February 2019 - 10:59 PM

yeah man 80 members are definitely gonna shill out hundreds of dollars for shares in a failing niche text-based browser game, this is a great idea and will definitely work

If we as members can not come up with funds for 80 $400 shares then you all are some broke ass people. Work more, sell crack, sell your ass. Make it happen. Or maybe we make it 1000 shares @ $40 each. 

 

Maybe we have 40 members who can buy 2 shares each or more. As long as no one member own more then 20 shares, Mike keeps control. 


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Posted 17 February 2019 - 11:12 PM

If we as members can not come up with funds for 80 $400 shares then you all are some broke ass people. Work more, sell crack, sell your ass. Make it happen. Or maybe we make it 1000 shares @ $40 each. 

 

Maybe we have 40 members who can buy 2 shares each or more. As long as no one member own more then 20 shares, Mike keeps control. 

 

 

You know this game has people from all over the world right? You know how much $400 would be to some of them? And you want them to put it towards shares where they will get 0 financial return?


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Posted 17 February 2019 - 11:13 PM

 

 

You know this game has people from all over the world right? You know how much $400 would be to some of them? And you want them to put it towards shares where they will get 0 financial return?

I understand what you are saying, but I also understand that we have members who can afford to help the rest of the members in this game.


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Posted 17 February 2019 - 11:14 PM

What would be the benefits for the people who have bought the shares?


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Posted 17 February 2019 - 11:23 PM

If we as members can not come up with funds for 80 $400 shares then you all are some broke ass people. Work more, sell crack, sell your ass. Make it happen. Or maybe we make it 1000 shares @ $40 each. 

 

Maybe we have 40 members who can buy 2 shares each or more. As long as no one member own more then 20 shares, Mike keeps control. 

 

So not only are you out of touch with the game, you're clearly massively out of touch with reality too. $400 is higher than the monthly salary of several countries, many of which players from this game hail from. There are barely any active players right now, let alone ones that will went to shell out hundreds of dollars on a fruitless endeavour with no returns or incentive. Even if they could afford it, only idiots would "invest" in your ridiculous share proposal.

 

Transitioning to something like this would also be a fucking massive headache for Mike, and do you think that is something he'd want to deal with? not a chance mate.

 

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 11:36 PM

 

So not only are you out of touch with the game, you're clearly massively out of touch with reality too. 

have you seen the dem socialist thread we already know that

 

 

 

 

honestly i would like to see anything that makes the games advance more, via by whatever means -- but on same hand we can come up with a million ideas but in the end it's mike decision if / when he does anything -- i know after 10 yrs banging away at something and only catching hell for your actions can drive anyone away or get old especially when its a side deal -- it is interesting idea but will members have say so or try to influence certain things -- i do think at 400 there is no way it will happen at this time base is too small i think 


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Posted 17 February 2019 - 11:40 PM

First I'm gonna say 3 things:

 

1. I'm not sure I fully understand exactly how penn wants to do this.

2. I'm not versed in the UK laws and assume the UK is where Tycoon is based as a business

3. No idea how the business is set up, like LLC, sole proprietorship, or etc.

 

That being said you have the following issues:

 

1. Lawyer cost to draw up said contract

2. Possible changing of business to partnership or LLC

3. Fee's to do the #2 if applicable

4. Depending on how it's set up, a group of members could vote mike out or take control of said business

5. Why would I open myself up to litigation for 1 40.00 share if tycoon was ever sued or alleged in fraudulent actions for something of no possible financial gain but all the risk.

6. Sounds like a legal nightmare with several different countries being involved (most likely due to members locations)

7. Tax implications and or filings required (work) for members of shares

 

 

Well, you get the idea 


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Posted 17 February 2019 - 11:44 PM

I offer ideas on how we could work together to help our game advance. Something needs to happen


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Posted 17 February 2019 - 11:47 PM

First I'm gonna say 3 things:

 

1. I'm not sure I fully understand exactly how penn wants to do this.

2. I'm not versed in the UK laws and assume the UK is where Tycoon is based as a business

3. No idea how the business is set up, like LLC, sole proprietorship, or etc.

 

That being said you have the following issues:

 

1. Lawyer cost to draw up said contract

2. Possible changing of business to partnership or LLC

3. Fee's to do the #2 if applicable

4. Depending on how it's set up, a group of members could vote mike out or take control of said business

5. Why would I open myself up to litigation for 1 40.00 share if tycoon was ever sued or alleged in fraudulent actions for something of no possible financial gain but all the risk.

6. Sounds like a legal nightmare with several different countries being involved (most likely due to members locations)

7. Tax implications and or filings required (work) for members of shares

 

 

Well, you get the idea 

 

This is not how it works when you sell / buy shares. It would be easy. Its just an idea to hopefully come up with something to move this game forward 


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