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#21 MasterLeader

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Posted 20 May 2018 - 10:09 AM

Whats the rationale for someone having the same amount of wins and fewer losses but being below the other person?

Id understand if you factored in win % somehow for those that miss events, but youve done the opposite here - I guess inactivity is massively negged?
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#22 RozzaD

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Posted 20 May 2018 - 10:35 AM

Someone just needs to take RozzA out on a drinking binge, before he gets his next event picks in!


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Posted 21 May 2018 - 03:25 AM

Whats the rationale for someone having the same amount of wins and fewer losses but being below the other person?

Id understand if you factored in win % somehow for those that miss events, but youve done the opposite here - I guess inactivity is massively negged?

I already answered this once, He picked more fights than you, so he is above you. Same as if somebody only picked the main card of an event and got all of them right would be under people that picked the whole card.

 

I have been doing it that for many leagues. If you have issue with it, bring it up on the next league thread to be discussed, if you join.


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#24 Fallen.Angel

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Posted 21 May 2018 - 03:42 PM

I think Suarez is the best fw the UFC has right now. They'll make her win another fight before she gets a title shot, but I can't favor any other flyweight over her.

may be Valentina ... but Suarez has the wrestling edge


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#25 Timqwe

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Posted 21 May 2018 - 06:00 PM

I think Suarez is the best fw the UFC has right now. They'll make her win another fight before she gets a title shot, but I can't favor any other flyweight over her.

She hasn't fought a single Ufc fight at flyweight though...
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Posted 21 May 2018 - 06:41 PM

Valentina destroys any woman right now at Flyweight, it's not even going to be fair LOL.
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Posted 21 May 2018 - 08:48 PM

I wrote the wrong weight class, I was buzzing.

 

At strawweight, the only two I wouldnt consider her a lock over would be Gadelha and Andrade just because I havent seen her physical strength tested yet and those are two strong broads.  But I would favor her.  Suarez wrestling is so far ahead of any potential opponent, the only comparison I could think of would be when Askren was dominating Bellator with his wrestling.


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#28 Timqwe

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Posted 22 May 2018 - 08:13 AM

I wrote the wrong weight class, I was buzzing.
 
At strawweight, the only two I wouldnt consider her a lock over would be Gadelha and Andrade just because I havent seen her physical strength tested yet and those are two strong broads.  But I would favor her.  Suarez wrestling is so far ahead of any potential opponent, the only comparison I could think of would be when Askren was dominating Bellator with his wrestling.

You'd pick her over Joanna? That's a controversial opinion to say the least.
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 12:01 PM

You'd pick her over Joanna? That's a controversial opinion to say the least.

Yes, and if I were still betting I would throw a ton of money at that fight.  Joanna doesnt have huge power, isn't a great athlete and would be thoroughly wrestlefucked.  The way the UFC works, that fight is probably a year or two away and by then Suarez will have improved enough that it wont even be close.  Wrestling is the key and there isnt a woman in that division that can hang with Suarez in that department.

 

I think the UFC is going to give Suarez a nice push though.  She checks a lot of boxes;  TUF winner, Mexican heritage, accomplished pre-UFC career, and a good backstory beating cancer.


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#30 MasterLeader

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Posted 22 May 2018 - 12:18 PM

Yes, and if I were still betting I would throw a ton of money at that fight.  Joanna doesnt have huge power, isn't a great athlete and would be thoroughly wrestlefucked.  The way the UFC works, that fight is probably a year or two away and by then Suarez will have improved enough that it wont even be close.  Wrestling is the key and there isnt a woman in that division that can hang with Suarez in that department.
 
I think the UFC is going to give Suarez a nice push though.  She checks a lot of boxes;  TUF winner, Mexican heritage, accomplished pre-UFC career, and a good backstory beating cancer.


Still fucks me off that you stole her from me this season.

Last year I was so obsessed I set specific notifications on twitter to track her injury / first fight of 2017 prior to picking her and she was lined up to be my next pick after you took her this year.
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 12:19 PM

Yes, and if I were still betting I would throw a ton of money at that fight.  Joanna doesnt have huge power, isn't a great athlete and would be thoroughly wrestlefucked.  The way the UFC works, that fight is probably a year or two away and by then Suarez will have improved enough that it wont even be close.  Wrestling is the key and there isnt a woman in that division that can hang with Suarez in that department.
 
I think the UFC is going to give Suarez a nice push though.  She checks a lot of boxes;  TUF winner, Mexican heritage, accomplished pre-UFC career, and a good backstory beating cancer.


Still fucks me off that you stole her from me this season.

Last year I was so obsessed I set specific notifications on twitter to track her injury / first fight of 2017 prior to picking her and she was lined up to be my next pick after you took her this year.

I agree in a year or so shes beat JJ
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 03:51 PM

Yes, and if I were still betting I would throw a ton of money at that fight.  Joanna doesnt have huge power, isn't a great athlete and would be thoroughly wrestlefucked.  The way the UFC works, that fight is probably a year or two away and by then Suarez will have improved enough that it wont even be close.  Wrestling is the key and there isnt a woman in that division that can hang with Suarez in that department.
 
I think the UFC is going to give Suarez a nice push though.  She checks a lot of boxes;  TUF winner, Mexican heritage, accomplished pre-UFC career, and a good backstory beating cancer.

Joanna also has amazing tdd and has survived on the ground with legit BJJ black belts. And we're not talking about 2 years from now
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Posted 22 May 2018 - 04:15 PM

anyone beating / to beat that whiny not-champion .. I am in :D hahahaa


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Posted 22 May 2018 - 11:23 PM

Joanna also has amazing tdd and has survived on the ground with legit BJJ black belts. And we're not talking about 2 years from now

I'd take Suarez vs Joanna if it was scheduled next, I'm just pointing out that that fight wont happen any time soon. 

 

Suarez is a world class wrestler.  Her grappling is a totally different beast. 


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#35 Timqwe

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Posted 23 May 2018 - 09:30 AM

I'd take Suarez vs Joanna if it was scheduled next, I'm just pointing out that that fight wont happen any time soon. 
 
Suarez is a world class wrestler.  Her grappling is a totally different beast. 

And Joanna is a world class striker. Suarez' striking is still incredibly raw, did you all of sudden forget how easy JJ pieced up Andrade, and how the two best grapplers in the division either couldn't take her down at all, or keep her there longer than 30 seconds?
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Posted 23 May 2018 - 11:18 AM

As much as I dislike JJ, I couldn't see Saurez doing much to her at this point, Joanna is too far adavanced.
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Posted 23 May 2018 - 11:30 AM

And Joanna is a world class striker. Suarez' striking is still incredibly raw, did you all of sudden forget how easy JJ pieced up Andrade, and how the two best grapplers in the division either couldn't take her down at all, or keep her there longer than 30 seconds?

Suarez would have went to the Olympics if she didn't get cancer. Comparing her wrestling to gadelhas bjj is apples to oranges.
It seems like discussing it seems like your getting a little pissy talking about it, so we'll agree to disagree.
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Posted 23 May 2018 - 12:36 PM

Suarez would have went to the Olympics if she didn't get cancer. Comparing her wrestling to gadelhas bjj is apples to oranges.
It seems like discussing it seems like your getting a little pissy talking about it, so we'll agree to disagree.

Do you really see, Suarez getting close enough to shoot though? You need a boxing game to do that, she doesnt have that. Romero is a silver medalist, yet he hardly got any wrestling going vs Whittaker. Cejudo is a gold medalist and got pieced up in the clinch by DJ
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