Check retired fighters hiddens

[Monsieur.Camara]

This is definitely one of the best additions to the game Mike has done.

 

And to think those 2 cucks almost made Mike throw in the towel on the game when he fist introduced this.

 

There are a few lessons in all this and that is to 1) give everything a chance to develop 2) not jump on stupid bandwagons

[Rambo]

Also fast learner, high potential and high age drop off.

Still subpar, but higher skills and less de-poping could explain part of it

 

IIRC he was a lighter fighter too, which often keeps from matchups where chin/heart might ge exposed. He would of got creamed at HW.

 

What marky didn't mention was that bum was 5-5 before he picked him up lol.

[Marky]

 

Also fast learner, high potential and high age drop off.

Still subpar, but higher skills and less de-poping could explain part of it

 

 

 

IIRC he was a lighter fighter too, which often keeps from matchups where chin/heart might ge exposed. He would of got creamed at HW.

 

What marky didn't mention was that bum was 5-5 before he picked him up lol.

 

Fast learner doesn't really count as he was 36 when he was #1 P4P so he was already losing skills. Yes high age drop off was an enabler I guess. Potential (total skill cap) seemed average, most of the guys seem to be between 116-120. Not sure how to actually decipher that value but the skill cap should be 77-80%.

 

Yeah being lighter most likely helped, being 150cm didn't really.

 

Now that I think of it, I should have lost on purpose with Partio on certain fight(s) since my other fighter Russ Rutger was #2 P4P at the same time. But now he never made it to #1.

[KingEpicity]

http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=228960

 

Remi Highjack - Hiddens Report.

 

Intelligence: 91/150.

Heart: 136/150.

Chin: 137/150.

Injury Proneness: 133/150.

Self Confidence: 132/150.

Cuts: 121/150.

Fast Learner: 129/150.

Natural KO: 136/150.

Average: 126.9/150. Rank: 75 out of 195,154 (top 0%)

 

Experience: 147/150.

Potential: 120/123. (Min 96).

Age Drop Off: 34 years.

 

Days of Cuts: 0 (Rank: 247,382)

Days of Injuries: 474 (Rank: 411)

 

 

 

 

 

 

All those years i wasted being inactive...and bad at sliders.

[barney]

http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=228960

 

Remi Highjack - Hiddens Report.

 

Intelligence: 91/150.

Heart: 136/150.

Chin: 137/150.

Injury Proneness: 133/150.

Self Confidence: 132/150.

Cuts: 121/150.

Fast Learner: 129/150.

Natural KO: 136/150.

Average: 126.9/150. Rank: 75 out of 195,154 (top 0%)

 

Experience: 147/150.

Potential: 120/123. (Min 96).

Age Drop Off: 34 years.

 

Days of Cuts: 0 (Rank: 247,382)

Days of Injuries: 474 (Rank: 411)

 

 

 

 

 

 

All those years i wasted being inactive...and bad at sliders.

SICK

[gwad12345]

http://www.mmatycoon.com/fighterprofilepublic.php?FID=228960

 

Remi Highjack - Hiddens Report.

 

Intelligence: 91/150.

Heart: 136/150.

Chin: 137/150.

Injury Proneness: 133/150.

Self Confidence: 132/150.

Cuts: 121/150.

Fast Learner: 129/150.

Natural KO: 136/150.

Average: 126.9/150. Rank: 75 out of 195,154 (top 0%)

 

Experience: 147/150.

Potential: 120/123. (Min 96).

Age Drop Off: 34 years.

 

Days of Cuts: 0 (Rank: 247,382)

Days of Injuries: 474 (Rank: 411)

 

 

 

 

 

 

All those years i wasted being inactive...and bad at sliders.

 

Crazy good

[imcool]

Friedrich Alzheimer - Hiddens Report.

 

Intelligence: 40/150.
Heart: 63/150.
Chin: 110/150.
Injury Proneness: 66/150.
Self Confidence: 120/150.
Cuts: 93/150.
Fast Learner: 132/150.
Natural KO: 132/150.
Average: 94.5/150. Rank: 41,573 out of 195,157 (top 21%)

Experience: 147/150.
Potential: 117/123. (Min 96).
Age Drop Off: 33 years.

Days of Cuts: 1 (Rank: 78,783)
Days of Injuries: 151 (Rank: 7,459)

[Rambo]

Makes you wonder why Bwang dropped a fighter w/ granite chin, good learning, and passed the confidence test. I think Remy overtakes Helix as the hidden king but would need to double check.

 

Personally I don't count injury proness it's backwards and drives the avg up for having a bad injury hidden.

 

 

EDIT: nope, Helix is still the hidden king.

[j666]

Makes you wonder why Bwang dropped a fighter w/ granite chin, good learning, and passed the confidence test. I think Remy overtakes Helix as the hidden king but would need to double check.

 

Personally I don't count injury proness it's backwards and drives the avg up for having a bad injury hidden.

 

 

EDIT: nope, Helix is still the hidden king.

What Helix? I ask cuz I had an entire stable of them at one point lol

[KingEpicity]

Makes you wonder why Bwang dropped a fighter w/ granite chin, good learning, and passed the confidence test. I think Remy overtakes Helix as the hidden king but would need to double check.

 

Personally I don't count injury proness it's backwards and drives the avg up for having a bad injury hidden.

 

 

EDIT: nope, Helix is still the hidden king.

 

Yeah I dont think Remi ever had a fight that wasn't 16 day injury after. His heart really surprised me but all his KO losses with me was because i was shit and using middle sliders and he gassed against good players like Sacket and Billy.

 

 

What Helix? I ask cuz I had an entire stable of them at one point lol

Helix Cabrera - Hiddens Report.

 

Intelligence: 136/150.

Heart: 113/150.

Chin: 137/150.

Injury Proneness: 133/150.

Self Confidence: 136/150.

Cuts: 114/150.

Fast Learner: 147/150.

Natural KO: 128/150.

Average: 130.5/150. Rank: 19 out of 189,487 (top 0%)

 

Experience: 147/150.

Potential: 118/123. (Min 96).

Age Drop Off: 33 years.

 

Days of Cuts: 1 (Rank: 83,386)

Days of Injuries: 357 (Rank: 1,215)

[Rambo]

I would take Remi's hiddens over Cabrera's. Swap that IQ for heart anyday...

 

But Helix was a little sneaky sub fucker too, IQ probably helped in that regard and being in lighter w/c heart wasn't as important as it is in heavier w/c's.

 

 

The fact that Ryan didn't go 16-12 with Remi is a testament to the fighters hiddens because Ryan was only successful when Aaron and Wolf were boosting their alliances fighters...

 

^^ meant to be a nice way of saying that Ryan is a choke artist and bad at sliders

 

Makes you wonder how much Wolf juice did you Vendetta dudes get lol.

 

^^^ if Bwang sacked that guy cuz shit learning speed or shit confidence... that would confirm.

[j666]

 

 

Yeah I dont think Remi ever had a fight that wasn't 16 day injury after. His heart really surprised me but all his KO losses with me was because i was shit and using middle sliders and he gassed against good players like Sacket and Billy.

 

 

 

Helix Cabrera - Hiddens Report.

 

Intelligence: 136/150.

Heart: 113/150.

Chin: 137/150.

Injury Proneness: 133/150.

Self Confidence: 136/150.

Cuts: 114/150.

Fast Learner: 147/150.

Natural KO: 128/150.

Average: 130.5/150. Rank: 19 out of 189,487 (top 0%)

 

Experience: 147/150.

Potential: 118/123. (Min 96).

Age Drop Off: 33 years.

 

Days of Cuts: 1 (Rank: 83,386)

Days of Injuries: 357 (Rank: 1,215)

thanks.

 

maaaaan...how would it be to have a fighter like that? lol

[gwad12345]

Would definitely take Remi over Helix. Chin, heart and power are easily, easily the most important hiddens and that dude is almost maxed in all three. What a monster.

[Rambo]

thanks.

 

maaaaan...how would it be to have a fighter like that? lol

Wolf juice. Bwang sacking him doesn't make sense.

 

Would definitely take Remi over Helix. Chin, heart and power are easily, easily the most important hiddens and that dude is almost maxed in all three. What a monster.

Confidence.

 

In heavier divisions yes heart is huge but not as much in lighter divisions unless you run across a Brayden Point or a Fabian Hoi.

 

Also IQ to finish opponents after you hurt them. Big heart opponents can recover after you hurt them and start beating your fighter up. Remy had plenty of IQ imo just playing devil's advocate.

 

Helix caps out a lot faster too, and would of been more fun to manage him cuz he would of killed the ID orgs on his way to top. Damn near max learning speed w/ beast hiddens.

[KingEpicity]

I would take Remi's hiddens over Cabrera's. Swap that IQ for heart anyday...

 

But Helix was a little sneaky sub fucker too, IQ probably helped in that regard and being in lighter w/c heart wasn't as important as it is in heavier w/c's.

 

 

The fact that Ryan didn't go 16-12 with Remi is a testament to the fighters hiddens because Ryan was only successful when Aaron and Wolf were boosting their alliances fighters...

 

^^ meant to be a nice way of saying that Ryan is a choke artist and bad at sliders

 

Makes you wonder how much Wolf juice did you Vendetta dudes get lol.

 

^^^ if Bwang sacked that guy cuz shit learning speed or shit confidence... that would confirm.

I needed more juice then that clearly. He was too busy juicing against his own teammates http://www.mmatycoon.com/fightcommentaryold.php?FTID=810070

 

Aaron was still shit WITH the juice! ( actually I think it was confirmed he only edited Wolf's and not his own but it's funnier to think he was shit with super fighters)

[Rambo]

Aaron reached #1 or #2 was def juicing his own dudes lol.

[gwad12345]

Wolf juice. Bwang sacking him doesn't make sense.

 

Confidence.

 

In heavier divisions yes heart is huge but not as much in lighter divisions unless you run across a Brayden Point or a Fabian Hoi.

 

Also IQ to finish opponents after you hurt them. Big heart opponents can recover after you hurt them and start beating your fighter up. Remy had plenty of IQ imo just playing devil's advocate.

 

Helix caps out a lot faster too, and would of been more fun to manage him cuz he would of killed the ID orgs on his way to top. Damn near max learning speed w/ beast hiddens.

 

My view of confidence is that you only need a certain minimum, after that its practically irrelevant. Even then there are plenty of fighters who drop all the way to 0 that have been successful at the top levels (speaking from personal experience).

[KingEpicity]

Wolf juice. Bwang sacking him doesn't make sense.

Actually he claimed he thought his learning speed was bad. He was only like Respectable/Wonderful/Respectful/Respectful when i picked him up. I wonder how he feels after seeing this. (Also not to feed your trolling but i wasn't even part of Vendetta during Remi's big winning streak. In fact http://www.mmatycoon.com/orgeventpublic.php?EvID=827994 here I am KOing Castor(Vendetta's leader) in the main event while being apart of LOD haha)

 

Aaron reached #1 or #2 was def juicing his own dudes lol.

That is just so sad I forgot about that... But I never did like Aaron. Me and Wolf were besties tho. Oh the betrayal.

[Rambo]

My view of confidence is that you only need a certain minimum, after that its practically irrelevant. Even then there are plenty of fighters who drop all the way to 0 that have been successful at the top levels (speaking from personal experience).

From everything I see revealing top fighters hiddens, usually the greats confidence is always sky high. Rarely are there exceptions. One of those iirc things.

 

I don't disagree with you, but feel like one thing I was noticing was usually 3 high scores: granite, KO power, and confidence.

[gwad12345]

Confidence levels of some of my top guys ever:

Rockmeteller Todd - 36/150

Billy Beast - 23/150

 

They would drop to the 20s and 30s respectively iirc.

 

And I have another who would drop all the way to 0 but reached the top 10.

[Monsieur.Camara]

LOL I finally understand the "Stepdads are the new Vendetta" line Division 1 alliances keep saying

 

Hillarious.

 

Until recently Mike was still asking managers to help him with programming though, would not be surprised if other stuff happened/ is happening right meow.

[gwad12345]

From everything I see revealing top fighters hiddens, usually the greats confidence is always sky high. Rarely are there exceptions. One of those iirc things.

 

I don't disagree with you, but feel like one thing I was noticing was usually 3 high scores: granite, KO power, and confidence.

 

May be testing bias as its one the easiest to weed out.

[Rambo]

May be testing bias as its one the easiest to weed out.

I think it's one of most important hiddens. Great hiddens can save/salvage it, sliders, but still think one of more important hiddens.

 

Gonna continue adding a few top fighters...

 

 

 

Smokudju Womba - Hiddens Report.

 

Intelligence: 60/150.

Heart: 94/150.

Chin: 133/150.

Injury Proneness: 79/150.

Self Confidence: 143/150.

Cuts: 121/150.

Fast Learner: 139/150.

Natural KO: 135/150.

Average: 113.0/150. Rank: 2,980 out of 195,161 (top 2%)

 

Bowser Stormcrow - Hiddens Report.

 

Intelligence: 26/150.

Heart: 110/150.

Chin: 145/150.

Injury Proneness: 86/150.

Self Confidence: 147/150.

Cuts: 58/150.

Fast Learner: 140/150.

Natural KO: 122/150.

Average: 104.3/150. Rank: 13,115 out of 195,161 (top 7%)

 

Friedrich Alzheimer - Hiddens Report.

 

Intelligence: 40/150.

Heart: 63/150.

Chin: 110/150.

Injury Proneness: 66/150.

Self Confidence: 120/150.

Cuts: 93/150.

Fast Learner: 132/150.

Natural KO: 132/150.

Average: 94.5/150. Rank: 41,407 out of 195,161 (top 21%)

 

Orlando Diggs - Hiddens Report.

 

Intelligence: 13/150.

Heart: 112/150.

Chin: 132/150.

Injury Proneness: 71/150.

Self Confidence: 132/150.

Cuts: 24/150.

Fast Learner: 141/150.

Natural KO: 60/150.

Average: 85.6/150. Rank: 83,191 out of 195,161 (top 43%)

 

Pluto Palhares - Hiddens Report.

 

Intelligence: 144/150.

Heart: 97/150.

Chin: 137/150.

Injury Proneness: 112/150.

Self Confidence: 130/150.

Cuts: 147/150.

Fast Learner: 128/150.

Natural KO: 87/150.

Average: 122.8/150. Rank: 289 out of 195,161 (top 0%)

 

^^^ Pluto out struck Bowser on aggro/acc cheese. Tried to go damage in other 2 fights to get a finish, mistake. Didn't have KO power hidden to warrant that strategy vs Bowsers hiddens.

 

Also only finished once entire career and years after decline kicked in.

[gwad12345]

Smokudju Womba - Hiddens Report.

 

Intelligence: 60/150.

Heart: 94/150.

Chin: 133/150.

Injury Proneness: 79/150.

Self Confidence: 143/150.

Cuts: 121/150.

Fast Learner: 139/150.

Natural KO: 135/150.

Average: 113.0/150. Rank: 2,980 out of 195,161 (top 2%)

 

He was mainly farming hype by subbing dudes from some bum's roster I heard

[gwad12345]

Hey, maybe I'm wrong but I think confidence is the most overrated hidden. I would put IQ above it as well.

 

But I do grant you anything below MW, heart is not so important.