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#21 RozzaD

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Posted 19 December 2017 - 04:11 AM

You reckon there's a way we can restrict funds?

Obviously initially funds are tight but by June everyone is loaded

We need to incentivise spending later on when fighters have less fights I reckon

 

I don't necessarily think we have to restrict funds the way the system is right now - I was just showing that there is NO need to award money for finishes (which seems to be leading in the poll). 

 

I think we should keep the scoring system the way it is with the addition of number of finishes. I would however also be happy to leave out number of finishes as part of the scoring criteria and leave it how it is.


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#22 The1rstSaint

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Posted 19 December 2017 - 09:08 PM

I am one of the 4 who selected fixed cash for bonuses for finishes. I like the idea personally cause i like to see finishes anyway why not reward a Camp for having some Beast fighters who get the job done. Plus i wouldn't be against getting less win bonus for a Split Decision win either. 

 

I'm still pissed i lost my last fight with Albert Morales who i thought one his fight. Of course, i still don't know what i smoking picking Morales so high in my draft order either lol.


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#23 Jacman

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Posted 20 December 2017 - 12:33 AM

I am one of the 4 who selected fixed cash for bonuses for finishes. I like the idea personally cause i like to see finishes anyway why not reward a Camp for having some Beast fighters who get the job done. Plus i wouldn't be against getting less win bonus for a Split Decision win either. 

 

I'm still pissed i lost my last fight with Albert Morales who i thought one his fight. Of course, i still don't know what i smoking picking Morales so high in my draft order either lol.

 

Personally I really like adding finishes to the rankings mainly because it adds another layer to this game and possibly some different strategies to build your camp but I'm not into the adding a bonus for finishes. Ultimately I'll play however the league is constructed but I like the way it's set up in regards to how we earn money.


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#24 RozzaD

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Posted 20 December 2017 - 10:31 AM

 

Personally I really like adding finishes to the rankings mainly because it adds another layer to this game and possibly some different strategies to build your camp but I'm not into the adding a bonus for finishes. 

 

This.

 

1rstSaint said he wants to see camps rewarded for having finishers.... well including no. of finishes to the scoring criteria would do exactly that without making everyone's bank accounts EVEN bigger.


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Posted 20 December 2017 - 12:08 PM

Official 2018 Camp League Teams



Camp RozzaD ('Cage Cartel')

 

Francis Ngannou - $50,000
Kevin Lee - $50,000

Renato Moicano - $50,000

Volkan Oezedemir - $25,000
Leon Edwards - $25,000

Alex Oliveira - $15,000

Thiago Santos - $15,000
Magomed Ankalaev - $10,000
Mike Perry - $10,000

Vincente Luque - $10,000
Marlon Vera - $10,000

Matt Brown - $10,000
Diego Rivas - $10,000

Humberto Bandenay - $10,000

Poliana Botelho -$10,000

Greg Hardy -$10,000

Bryan Barberena - $10,000

Nasrat Haqparast - $10,000

Nik Lentz - $10,000

Alex Garcia - $10,000

Adam Wieczorek - $10,000

Chad Laprise - $10,000

Zak Cummings - $10,000

 

Justine Kish - $10,000
 
Total Value - $390,000

 
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Camp NorthernNinjas ('Camp Of The North')
 
Chris Weidman - $50,000
Ronaldo Souza - $50,000

Alexander Volkov - $50,000

Jose Aldo - $50,000
Mirsad Bektic - $25,000
Zabit Magomedsharipov - $15,000
Gregor Gillespie - $10,000
Arjan Bhullar - $10,000

Sean Strickland - $10,000

Alonzo Menifield -$10,000

Jessica Aguilar  -$10,000

 

Frankie Edgar -$50,000

Sarah Moras - $15,000
 
Total Value - $290,000

 

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Camp FallenAngel ('Camp Fallen Angels')
 

Aljamain Sterling - $25,000

John Lineker - $25,000

Gunnar Nelson - $15,000
Rob Font - $15,000

Antonio Carlos Jr. - $15,000

Elias Theodorou - $15,000

Yair Rodriguez -$15,000

Paul Felder - $15,000

Cynthia Calvillo - $15,000
Islam Makachev - $10,000
Joe Duffy - $10,000
Jarred Brooks - $10,000
Lando Vannata - $10,000
Polyana Viana - $10,000

Oskar Piechota - $10,000
Marc Diakiese - $10,000

Nathaniel Wood -$10,000
Raoni Barcelos - $10,000

Nad Narimani - $10,000
Kevin Holland - $10,000
Mickey Gall - $10,000

Charles Oliveira - $10,000
Marina Rodriguez - $10,000

Sergey Pavlovich - $10,000

Kenan Song - $10,000

Pannie Kianzad - $10,000
Carlos Diego Ferreira - $10,000

 

Luke Rockhold - $50,000

Dmitry Poberzhets - $10,000

Marcin Prachnio - $10,000

Abubakar Nurmagomedov - $10,000

Abdul Kerim-Edilov - $10,000

Joseph Morales - $10,000

Molly McCann -$10,000

 
Total Value - $335,000

 
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Camp The1rstSaint ('Team Saints')


Ketlen Vieira - $50,000

Anthony Smith - $50,000

Kamaru Usman - $50,000

Junior Dos Santos -$25,000
Al Iaqunita - $25,000

Nate Diaz - $25,000

James Vick - $15,000

Jennifer Maia - $15,000
Marcelo Golm - $10,000

Sam Alvey -$10,000
Hakeem Dawodu - $10,000
Sean O'Malley - $10,000
Niko Price - $10,000
Aleksandar Rakic - $10,000

Priscila Cachoeira - $10,000

Cain Velasquez - $10,000
Khusein Askhabov -$10,000

Antonia Shevchenko -$10,000

Juan Adams - $10,000

Johnny Walker - $10,000

Vince Morales - $10,000

Dwight Grant - $10,000

 

Jim Miller - $10,000
 
Total Value - $395,000

 
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Camp MasterLeader ('Viking Power')
 
Joanna Jedrzejczyk - $50,000

Jon Jones - $50,000
Kelvin Gastelum - $50,000

Derek Brunson - $25,000
Alexandre Pantoja - $25,000

Dominick Reyes - $25,000

Ben Nguyen - $25,000

Justin Willis - $25,000
Donald Cerrone - $15,000

Ulka Sasaki -$10,000

Misha Cirkunov - $15,000

Gian Villante - $10,000
Dennis Bermudez - $10,000
Karl Roberson - $10,000

Dmitry Sosnovskiy - $10,000

Mike Rodriguez - $10,000

Geroges St-Pierre - $10,000

Walt Harris -$10,000

Jake Matthews -$10,000

Kurt Holobaugh -$10,000

Danny Roberts -$10,000

Ion Cutelaba -$10,000

Cory Sandhagen -$10,000

Charles Byrd - $10,000

Khalid Murtazaliev - $10,000

Augusto Sakai - $10,000

Alan Patrick - $10,000

Khalil Rountree Jr. - $10,000

Macy Chiasson - $10,000

Drakkar Klose - $10,000
 

Total Value - $505,000

 

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Camp Timqwe 
 

Valentina Shevchenko - $50,000
John Dodson - $25,000

Cat Zingano - $25,000
Jessica Eye - $25,000

Marcin Tybura - $25,000

Israel Adesanya - $25,000

Yana Kunitskaya - $25,000

David Branch - $15,000

Uriah Hall - $15,000
Randa Markos - $15,000

Magomed Bibulatov - $15,000

Tyson Pedro - $10,000

Eric Shelton - $10,000

Rustam Khabilov - $10,000
Megan Anderson - $10,000
Josh Barnett - $10,000

Dooho Choi - $10,000

Total Value - $320,000

 

 
Camp Rei ('Team Team Team')
 

Alexander Gustafsson - $50,000

Dustin Poirier - $50,000
Darren Till - $50,000

Anthony Pettis - $25,000
Mackenzie Dern - $15,000

Chan Sung Jung - $15,000

Paige VanZant - $10,000
Naoki Inoue - $10,000
Dong Hyun Kim (Maestro) - $10,000

Livia Renata Souza - $10,000
Mizuki Inoue - $10,000

Yan Xiaonan - $10,000
 
Total Value - $265,000

 

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Camp Gonzasco
 

Daniel Cormier - $100,000

Frankie Edgar - $50,000
Tony Ferguson - $50,000

Yoel Romero - $50,000

Katlyn Chookagian - $50,000

Joseph Benavidez - $50,000

Sergio Pettis - $50,000

Jeremy Stephens - $25,000
Irene Aldana - $15,000

Tim Boetsch - $10,000

Weili Zhang -$10,000

Iuri Alcantara -$10,000

Brain Kellerher - $10,000

 

Mayra Bueno Silva - $10,000


Total Value - $480,000

 

Camp Humble
 
Curtis Blaydes - $50,000

Derrick Lewis - $50,000

Deiveson Figueiredo - $50,000

Santiago Ponzinibbio - $25,000

Josh Emmett - $25,000
Francisco Trinaldo - $15,000
Yancy Medeiros - $10,000
Sage Northcutt - $10,000
 
Total Value - $235,000

 
Camp Aylib ('Camp Ugly Bastards')
 

Brian Ortega - $50,000

Conor McGregor - $50,000

Chad Mendes - $50,000
Ovince Saint Preux - $25,000

Pedro Munhoz - $25,000

Dan Hooker - $15,000

Rani Yahya - $15,000

Curtis Millender -$10,000

Jordan Johnson - $10,000
Shane Burgos - $10,000
Mairbek Taisumov - $10,000
Li Jingliang - $10,000
Michel Prazeres - $10,000
Trevin Giles - $10,000
Abdul Razak Alhassan - $10,000
Daichi Abe - $10,000
Calvin Kattar - $10,000

Siyar Bahadurzada - $10,000
Felipe Silva - $10,000
Gilbert Burns - $10,000

Gokhan Saki - $10,000

Tom Breese -$10,000

Gabriel Benitez -$10,000

Belal Muhammad -$10,000

Luis Pena -$10,000

Darko Stosic -$10,000

Yadong Song - $10,000
Ben Askren - $10,000

Sodiq Yusuf - $10,000
 

Michal Oleksjieczuk - $10,000
 
Total Value - $450,000

 

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Camp Jacman ('Stone Cold')
 

Khabib Nurmagomedov - $100,000

Aspen Ladd - $25,000
Paulo Costa - $15,000

Lucie Pudilova - $15,000

Neil Magny - 15,000

Brett Johns - $10,000
Julian Marquez - $10,000
Joaquim Silva - $10,000
Bobby Green - $10,000
Luke Sanders - $10,000

Julio Arce -$10,000

Gadzhimurad Antigulov - $10,000
Tony Martin - $10,000

Michael Johnson - $10,000

Total Value - $270,000

 
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Camp JLP
 

Max Holloway - $100,000

Marlon Moraes - $50,000

Tatiana Suarez - $50,000

Brad Tavares - $25,000

Alexander Volkanovski - $25,000

Tai Tuivasa - $15,000
Thomas Almeida - $15,000

Blagoy Ivanov -$15,000
David Teymur - $10,000
Tom Duquesnoy - $10,000
Jared Gordon - $10,000
Petr Yan - $10,000
Arnold Allen - $10,000

Eryk Anders - $10,000

Maycee Barber -$10,000
 

Justin Ledet - $10,000

Beneil Dariush - $10,000

Warlley Alves - $10,000

Vitaly Minakov - $10,000

Nikita Krylov - $15,000

Jose Torres -$10,000

Lauren Mueller - $10,000

James Krause - $10,000

Ariane Lipski - $10,000

Artem Frolov - $10,000

Roosevelt Roberts - $10,000
 
Total Value - $365,000

 
Camp LeonStolz
 
Robert Whittaker - $100,000
Jessica Andrade - $50,000

Andrea Lee - $15,000

Alejandro Perez -$15,000

Elizeu Zaleski Dos Santos - $15,000

Tonya Evinger - $15,000

Alex Perez -$15,000

Said Nurmagomedov -$15,000

Mark Hunt - $10,000
Ricardo Ramos - $10,000

Ricky Simon - $10,000

Drew Dober - $10,000

Olivier Aubin-Mercier - $10,000

Antonio Rogerio Nogueira -$10,000

Alex Morono -$10,000

Alexey Kunchenko -$10,000

Brandon Davis - $10,000
Davi Ramos - $10,000

Kai Kara-France - $10,000

Artem Lobov - $10,000

Lyman Good - $10,000
 

Myles Jury - $10,000

 

Total Value - $370,000
 
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Camp TheyCallMeNeon (Neon)
 
Rafael Dos Anjos - $50,000
Jimmie Rivera - $50,000

Carla Esparza - $25,000

Cody Stamann - $25,000
Matheus Nicolau - $10,000
Ramazan Emeev - $10,000
Leonardo Santos - $10,000
 
Total Value - $180,000


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#26 MasterLeader

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Posted 20 December 2017 - 05:13 PM

Okay it's pretty even across the board in terms of votes, I've not voted so I'm going to make the decision to include a new ranking for "finishes" rather than giving extra cash.

Total funds will be monitored but no points for funds in the overall scores and replaced with "finishes". This however will change the game so I'm editing the poll for this.

See new poll - two questions, given there is currently heavy incentives to just waste cash on as many fighters as possible, it may be worthwhile selecting the second option in question two. For example I had something like 34 fights this year and maybe 10 finishes from 19 wins which isn't great and so if we used "absolute" figures for rankings i'd deck all of you. On the other hand someone may be careful and wise with their spending, resulting in 9 finishes from 13 wins and rank below me.

 

Let me know what you guys think, given we may be replacing "total funds" which deterred reckless spending I think option 2 works best...


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Posted 20 December 2017 - 10:50 PM

Guys, follow "MasterLeaderMMAT" on instagram and a live draw will happen on the earliest of 16 places filling or 2nd Jan. Everyone will get to see my mug on a live stream. 

 

Then as soon as the rankings are announced after the end of year event, the draft will begin (most likely 3rd January).


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Posted 21 December 2017 - 02:41 AM

I dont really like the total finishes as a stat, especially if we are removing the money total as a stat.  That's just going to encourage the "throwing shit at the wall" strategy.  If you dont need to care about keeping a bank roll for stat purposes, then i could have bought up every decent fighter left in Sept/Oct and there would have been almost no doubt in who was going to win months ago.

My suggestion to curb that will be team fighter finishes(wins) - fighters finished(losses) = net finishes.  Using net finishes makes a little more thought go into it. 

 

Honestly though, I dont think many of you even really put much thought into how the scoring system worked in the first place.  Adding more scoring stats and making it a little more complicated is probably going to cause more errors in the tabulation and take more strategy out of it.


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#29 RozzaD

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 04:42 AM

 

My suggestion to curb that will be team fighter finishes(wins) - fighters finished(losses) = net finishes.  Using net finishes makes a little more thought go into it. 

 

 

I think this is good, it is a middle ground for those in favor and not in favor. Let's just make this the final change to the game. The way it was set up before is good - no need to change too much.

 

 

Also

 

Just in case people are trying to bring more people on board for the last 2 spots.... Don't! We only want active players who join because they actually want to and follow the sport enough. Last season there were a few who only pitched up for the draft and hijacked some good fighters. 14 is a good number anyway, if someone comes in here and wants to sign up for the last 2 spots then that is cool but let's not reach out to people as if we need them.


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Posted 21 December 2017 - 04:48 AM

I dont really like the total finishes as a stat, especially if we are removing the money total as a stat.  That's just going to encourage the "throwing shit at the wall" strategy.  If you dont need to care about keeping a bank roll for stat purposes, then i could have bought up every decent fighter left in Sept/Oct and there would have been almost no doubt in who was going to win months ago.

My suggestion to curb that will be team fighter finishes(wins) - fighters finished(losses) = net finishes.  Using net finishes makes a little more thought go into it. 

 

Honestly though, I dont think many of you even really put much thought into how the scoring system worked in the first place.  Adding more scoring stats and making it a little more complicated is probably going to cause more errors in the tabulation and take more strategy out of it.

 

I completely agree with you and the net finishes is a great idea/solution. Let's keep the funds stat and add the net finishes that seems like the best way to go.


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Posted 21 December 2017 - 06:17 AM

My suggestion to curb that will be team fighter finishes(wins) - fighters finished(losses) = net finishes.  Using net finishes makes a little more thought go into it. 
 

  

Already thought about this mate, see my suggestion a couple posts earlier:


See new poll - two questions, given there is currently heavy incentives to just waste cash on as many fighters as possible, it may be worthwhile selecting the second option in question two. For example I had something like 34 fights this year and maybe 10 finishes from 19 wins which isn't great and so if we used "absolute" figures for rankings i'd deck all of you. On the other hand someone may be careful and wise with their spending, resulting in 9 finishes from 13 wins and rank below me.
 
Let me know what you guys think, given we may be replacing "total funds" which deterred reckless spending I think option 2 works best...


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Posted 21 December 2017 - 11:11 AM

net finishes is a good idea ...

but I still think camp funds stat should be taken into count as we have another statistic in Camp Value .. in that way participation will be more in the interested parties in buying new fighters, bets etc.


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Posted 21 December 2017 - 02:27 PM

net finishes is a good idea ...

but I still think camp funds stat should be taken into count as we have another statistic in Camp Value .. in that way participation will be more in the interested parties in buying new fighters, bets etc.


Camp Funds will still be monitored and remain the lifeblood of the game so I don't see the relevance of keeping it in the scoring criteria especially if we use finishes as a percentage of total wins.

We'll wait to see the outcome of the poll.

I'm going to suggest the following:

1) If we keep total funds criteria, then use absolute finishes as an additional criteria
2) If we remove total funds criteria, then use finishes as a % of total wins
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Posted 21 December 2017 - 07:49 PM

Another question:

To speed up the draft would you guys be offended if we were to split the participants into two groups based on time zone and then I'll begin by drawing which group participants are selected from first?

E.g. Positive GMT (i.e. UK and to the right) in one group and negative GMT (i.e. to the left of UK, so North & South America) in the other group

Obviously whichever group is drawed first will pick fighters last in the second round due to the serpentine draft structure.

Draft took ages last year partly due to a UK person picking then a US person being asleep for several hours etc...

I would assume everyone's "home town" in their MMA tycoon manager profile is correct, otherwise let me know.
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Posted 22 December 2017 - 12:16 AM

Keep camp funds as a scoring criteria.  Much of the games strategy goes out the window if their is no incentive to hold on to money. 


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Posted 22 December 2017 - 12:22 AM

Keep camp funds as a scoring criteria.  Much of the games strategy goes out the window if their is no incentive to hold on to money.


What do you think about draft logistics as per my last post?
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Posted 22 December 2017 - 06:30 AM

Camp Funds will still be monitored and remain the lifeblood of the game so I don't see the relevance of keeping it in the scoring criteria especially if we use finishes as a percentage of total wins.

We'll wait to see the outcome of the poll.

I'm going to suggest the following:

1) If we keep total funds criteria, then use absolute finishes as an additional criteria
2) If we remove total funds criteria, then use finishes as a % of total wins

 

Keep camp funds as a scoring criteria and introduce net finishes as a scoring criteria. done.

 

Another question:

To speed up the draft would you guys be offended if we were to split the participants into two groups based on time zone and then I'll begin by drawing which group participants are selected from first?

E.g. Positive GMT (i.e. UK and to the right) in one group and negative GMT (i.e. to the left of UK, so North & South America) in the other group

Obviously whichever group is drawed first will pick fighters last in the second round due to the serpentine draft structure.

Draft took ages last year partly due to a UK person picking then a US person being asleep for several hours etc...

I would assume everyone's "home town" in their MMA tycoon manager profile is correct, otherwise let me know.

 

IMO we should keep it how it is but perhaps have a time limit of say... 8 hours to pick otherwise you are moved to the end of the queue for that round and it goes back to normal in the next round.

 

Another thing that helps is if people send their next few picks in order to you so there is more chance of a free flowing draft.


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Posted 22 December 2017 - 10:48 AM

 
Keep camp funds as a scoring criteria and introduce net finishes as a scoring criteria. done.
 

I don't think it makes sense to keep total funds AND have proportionate finishes.

The reason we're introducing proportionate finishes is since removing total funds means managers will just squander all their funds in the later months.

If we keep total funds then careful spending will continue and we're better off with using absolute finishes.

With your suggestions the game becomes overly conservative and people won't take risks and spend too carefully.

Time limit on draws is probably the best. If you're going to sleep then send your next couple of picks so that you don't get kicked to the bottom of the draw.
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Posted 23 December 2017 - 04:33 AM

I don't think it makes sense to keep total funds AND have proportionate finishes.

The reason we're introducing proportionate finishes is since removing total funds means managers will just squander all their funds in the later months.

If we keep total funds then careful spending will continue and we're better off with using absolute finishes.

With your suggestions the game becomes overly conservative and people won't take risks and spend too carefully.

Time limit on draws is probably the best. If you're going to sleep then send your next couple of picks so that you don't get kicked to the bottom of the draw.

 

There has never really been careful spending though. As I've shown in the 2017 season pretty much everyone has plenty of funds and whenever someone wants to buy a fighter they do just that without breaking a sweat. The way I see it adding net finishes is just simply adding a new scoring criteria to make people perhaps use a slightly different strategy when drafting fighters.

 

Anyway, I am getting tired of this back and fourth. I handed the game over to you so I suppose it's your decision.


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Posted 23 December 2017 - 12:26 PM

 
There has never really been careful spending though. As I've shown in the 2017 season pretty much everyone has plenty of funds and whenever someone wants to buy a fighter they do just that without breaking a sweat. The way I see it adding net finishes is just simply adding a new scoring criteria to make people perhaps use a slightly different strategy when drafting fighters.
 
Anyway, I am getting tired of this back and fourth. I handed the game over to you so I suppose it's your decision.

I know I've avoided picking up fighters in the last months, because I'm likely to drop places for it
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