BobbMogg Posted May 20, 2020 Report Share Posted May 20, 2020 I never train my guys up to mega high cardio, I either start them off at mediocre or below then build them up to respectable by their first fight, always concentrate on building up skills while the fighter is young, and do one maybe two general circuit training lessons a week tops. Found you don't need ridiculous cardio for a 3 round fight, think slider knowledge is important factor, not to try to many takedowns if your a grappler or to many combos as a striker, as these burn up a lot of energy if your Fighter fails to execute the moves plus what advice you were given is exactly that, just advice, it's up to you if you want to take it or not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingEpicity Posted May 20, 2020 Report Share Posted May 20, 2020 It's not rocket science. Start with 110 cardio so you can focus on training some secondaries first then eventually(depending on long term vs fighting asap) rounding it out with some CT and sparring. Training naturally increases your cardio and it's been proven(at least in 2016) that physical learning speed is the same for all fighters and that it's more beneficial(based on a fast learner) to training focus more on secondaries then sprinkling in sparring and physicals more and more to round your fighter out. This is based on the decline in physical learning speed being less drastic than decline in normal learning speed. Of course maybe I'm full of shit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted May 20, 2020 Report Share Posted May 20, 2020 You're right on just about everything except I think physical training speed actually differ based on fighter learning speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJMitchell Posted May 20, 2020 Report Share Posted May 20, 2020 Reading this from the OP I was about ready to come in and just lock this thread. But in a swerve very few would've seen coming this is one of the rare forum threads that actually took a turn for the better instead of the usual way. Well done boiks. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 You're right on just about everything except I think physical training speed actually differ based on fighter learning speed. I had 4.5 learners and 7.3 learners. They both get physicials at the same rate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBR Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 You're right on just about everything except I think physical training speed actually differ based on fighter learning speed. speed is the slowest physical by far -- cant remember mikes reasoning for it that way but something about speed being the hardest physical to build in real life 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJMitchell Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 speed is the slowest physical by far -- cant remember mikes reasoning for it that way but something about speed being the hardest physical to build in real life  I definitely can see that. I start all my dudes with 78(ish) in speed and only train CT's.  Agility Exceptional, 13 (20)+ Flexibility Exceptional, 13 (0)-- Speed Sensational, 14 (27)+ Strength Exceptional, 13 (25)-- Conditioning Elite, 15 (36)+ Balance Exceptional, 13 (11)- Everything else (apart from Conditioning which starts higher than speed) catches up pretty close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 Idk circuits (speed) usually boost my fighters speed up fairly quickly.  I had 4.5 learners and 7.3 learners. They both get physicials at the same rateI stand corrected, but physicals train faster at 18 then they do at 19, 20, etc. Probably what I was referring to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingEpicity Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 Speed is also the least important stat in what has been a stand up dominant meta for years(counter takedown era maybe?) so it doesn't bother me none. If i made a grappler I would put all points into conditioning then 78 speed but for stand up agility gets 78... Then the first physical I train is strength to the same level then CT General until Elite++. This is only cause if I end up fighting premature you can get by a little easier with high agility and lower strength then vice versa in this agg/acc meta. Â Idk circuits (speed) usually boost my fighters speed up fairly quickly. Â I stand corrected, but physicals train faster at 18 then they do at 19, 20, etc. Â Probably what I was referring to. They do but the decrease in learning speed as you age isn't as drastic as secondaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwang Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 Speed is important for countering in standup too. I don’t know about an agg/acc meta, for sure at lower weights, but I do counter damage pretty often too. Each fight’s different, especially if you can out think your opponent.  I learnt the old school way of creating with minimal cardio and strength. I think from cardiffwanderer’s guide. Still do that nowadays. A reasonable speed learner will be 99% trained by 25, and can then do minimal training/maintaining for the rest of his career.  Someone should have told the OP to create 5 25 yr olds and unleash them in QFC or the island. But I reckon he’d have lost interest pretty quickly anyway! Surprising the anger from him though, without giving the game a chance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j666 Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 Speed is important for countering in standup too. I don’t know about an agg/acc meta, for sure at lower weights, but I do counter damage pretty often too. Each fight’s different, especially if you can out think your opponent.  I learnt the old school way of creating with minimal cardio and strength. I think from cardiffwanderer’s guide. Still do that nowadays. A reasonable speed learner will be 99% trained by 25, and can then do minimal training/maintaining for the rest of his career.  Someone should have told the OP to create 5 25 yr olds and unleash them in QFC or the island. But I reckon he’d have lost interest pretty quickly anyway! Surprising the anger from him though, without giving the game a chance. Sheeeit. Even I made a few 22's, a 21, a 25 and an Island 25. 3 of my best fighters weren't 18 yr old "projects" cuz it just wasn't even a thing when I started...Slaughter (21) - LaVey (22, before 25 was an option) - Spliffs (19)  Marinating an entire roster is boring af. Gotta eat lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsieur.Camara Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 Speed is important for countering in standup too. I don’t know about an agg/acc meta, for sure at lower weights, but I do counter damage pretty often too. Each fight’s different, especially if you can out think your opponent.  I learnt the old school way of creating with minimal cardio and strength. I think from cardiffwanderer’s guide. Still do that nowadays. A reasonable speed learner will be 99% trained by 25, and can then do minimal training/maintaining for the rest of his career.  Someone should have told the OP to create 5 25 yr olds and unleash them in QFC or the island. But I reckon he’d have lost interest pretty quickly anyway! Surprising the anger from him though, without giving the game a chance.  I swear this is why Grumpy Bastard mentoring program is #1 in Philipinnes  Your 40 or so QFC wins are so key in getting you to love and want to learn. To try different stuff. By then you have good ranking pick up good FA and off you go to.  I have no idea what eras (TD spam, Punch from Bottom spam, etc) came before me and in a way I`m glad I don`t know because I see a lot of managers in the buildup to the fight already defeated, based on some presumed metagame the other noob might or might not have mastered.  Really good conversation.  Totally unrelated to this thread but our Latvian friend informed me this week that he was hanging up the MMAT gloves for good. He has been holding a private gym for Aylib`s midgets and my heavies for almost 2 years, never axed for VIP, a true champ.  #RideorDiie my good friend.  3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10thPlanetKT Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 Speed is also the least important stat in what has been a stand up dominant meta for years(counter takedown era maybe?) so it doesn't bother me none. If i made a grappler I would put all points into conditioning then 78 speed but for stand up agility gets 78... Then the first physical I train is strength to the same level then CT General until Elite++. This is only cause if I end up fighting premature you can get by a little easier with high agility and lower strength then vice versa in this agg/acc meta.   They do but the decrease in learning speed as you age isn't as drastic as secondarie   Every physical has it's importance and use. Try getting a takedown or pulling guard in a mid tier+ organization with bad speed and tell me how that works out for you . Also, if you like to counterstrike in the lighter weight divisions having speed, high confidence, and intelligence is a viable strategy in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 If I had to choose between speed and agility I take agility every time. Â Head movement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelsith Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 boy you are about as unintelligent as they come eh OP? Â your first post talks about comparing the fights and training to real life and then you talk about why cant you fight 50 fights a day. ok man show me where in the world a professional fighter fights 50 times per day? you bash a game for reasons that make no sense, but at the same time you show that you dont have the mental capacity to play the game in the first place. Â no loss with you leaving, please, let the door hit you on the way out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWonder Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 The speed of this game is what makes it so great and special 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10thPlanetKT Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 Exactly, I think i I had more than 2 fights in a day then it wouldn't be as special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator001 Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 The speed of this game is what makes it so great and special 100% agree, what attracted me to the game is that you could be totally immersed but dont have to play 6 hours a day or get up in the early hours of the morning to 'make a move'. I have tried a few online multi player games and always found the more you participated the more you had to until it became too much and had to can it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 Someone is stacking the negs fast As for the speed of the game, it is perfect for all the old fuckers playing it. The average age in this game is not your typical teenager group, that is for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsquirrel Posted May 22, 2020 Report Share Posted May 22, 2020 Yes I like the pace of the game. Wouldn't be able to play if it took more time than it does. But as it is I can keep my rooster to something manageable. Been busy recently and didn't scout properly for this weeks fights so if someone wants a W over me now is the time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10thPlanetKT Posted May 25, 2020 Report Share Posted May 25, 2020 Plus if you hate the pace one could just create all 25 year olds an get action right away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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