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#21 Boble

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 01:29 PM

For a newbie 25yo creation I think 500/500/500 is ok, it allows the Org Owner to do profit on the first card, and do all newbie creations have to be in a premium Gym?

I guess those 25yos are there to pick up experience and money to do a project fighter with more experience.

 

Plus it's always riskie to offer a big contract to a newbie, as you don't know, if he goes inactive or not, and then you invested in a fighter you can't use anymore,

however you're right, for an experienced player, it's a question, if he wants to support a new Org by taking less than he would in an established org,

or want his standard pay. 

Signing too many fighters from inactive players can quickly get you in trouble financial wise, but most of the fighters you can reach out to are fresh creations by newbies.

 

Ok, thats away from the topic now......


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#22 tomodinho

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 01:35 PM

Let's just clear the air, here. I never said you were a monster. Just that the contracts you offered were garbage. Which a $500/$500/$500 contract is NOT good under any circumstances. When you started talking about the flying thing, I looked all around for anything supporting that and not one forum thread had anything that sounded like it supported what you were talking about. I spend a lot of time on the forums as you can see. I also checked the news feed, which is where something like that should have appeared. It wasn't there.

 

However, after doing a more exhaustive search, I found a few things talking about the locations being turned off and so I talked to one of my old friends from the forums whose opinion I trust. He confirmed that locations are, in fact, turned off and that, for whatever reason Mike opted to send that information out as a mass e-mail instead of putting it on the spoiler/news page, or even in a thread in the forums. I never recieved said mass e-mail, because it went out before my return to the game.

 

So, with that said, I do owe you a bit of an apology, but it was not me that started getting "mean". I simply said that the contract offer you sent me was unacceptable. I could drag up the PM conversation and hash it out here, or... Be the bigger man and say I'm sorry for my part in the argument and bury the hatchet. Hopefully, you can as well, and we can move on. No hard feelings.

 

Good luck with your organization.

Well I'm sorry too for getting frustrated.

 

As for the contracts, its okay for you to tell me they aren't acceptable as I understand that they are low. I'm doing whatever I can to get more money so that I can offer better contracts, and I have actually already began offering a little better contracts as I knew myself that those contracts were low.

 

In conclusion, I don't have any hard feelings, I just didn't want to gain a bad reputation for wanting to help someone, and that's why I wrote "monster" not that you actually called me one but you made me look bad when actually my intensions were good.

 

But again I'm sorry for acting a little unaccordingly after I got frustrated and thank you for wishing me good luck I wish you all the best aswell. :)


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#23 Monsieur.Camara

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 02:11 PM

Whatta difference this place makes with the emo/ aggro people purged from these forums in the last few weeks :)

Old managers are coming back and new managers are getting a better experience.

Just wanted to point that out.
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#24 thedry16

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 03:15 PM

Happy to take a 1/1/1 contract for the first few events to help new orgs out like people helped me.

Remember you can offer a smaller signing bonus and bigger fight pay/ win bonus if you are worried about new managers going inactive
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#25 ovoxo

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 05:18 PM

Many people fail to understand that there will be nothing in this game without the fight orgs and also they fail to understand how much of commitment does it require to run an org yourself. There is no point to give shit to org owners when they don't deserve it. Best you could achieve that way is the org owner giving up and you will be thinking in a while "where to send my XXXk ID fighter, there aren't any XXXk ID orgs anymore". With all those billions of tycoon cash floating around, I was never able to understand people that negotiate contracts with newer ID orgs. Only thing I do negotiate with them is the inactivity clause, because my fighters have suffered not once or twice by org owner disappearing. When you get to fight in a PPV org, then you are free to negotiate better contracts for your fighters. But what is the difference if you fight for 1/1/1 or 500/500/500 or 3k/3k/3k at a new ID org? For your fighter it is nothing, but for an org owner there is huge difference, since if he has all fighters on 3k/3k/3k, he will be losing money from the first events, making it hard to sign new fighters, book arenas for more events and also putting work into an org and losing money from it kinda kills your motivation.

 

I think the same dude contacted me last night looking for financial help, so I doubt that he was being cheap by offering you 500/500/500, just that is the best he could offer. As a matter of fact, that's the approximate worth of a new fighter's hype and pop. I mean, no one got rich by fighting in ID orgs, so aim to have fun there - the big money comes from the PPV orgs. :)


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#26 Lefty

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 05:39 PM

I agree it's hard to start up an org. Takes forever to start making profits especially when you start on higher contracts to attract managers. In the beginning that's kind of all you have to attract people to your org when you are competing with other ID orgs and it kind of fucks you for a while because the profts just aren't there and you need financial support to float the org until the hype builds. And finding the balance of arenas and making sure it fills up even with tycoon tools is still difficult...


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#27 Mentor

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 07:00 PM

205 and 265+ are my favorite divisions in general, i cannot be bothered with going into depth to study sliders and be involved with the ground game, so 205+ offer the biggest chance for KO finishes. I would say 185 is the best mix of both worlds, where you get a good deal of decisions while KO's are still very common. 

 

I think i have never created a 135 fighter and at most i have had 3-4 of my fighters in the 145 or 155lbs divisions. 


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#28 BigLarry

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Posted 14 January 2018 - 08:00 PM

Many people fail to understand that there will be nothing in this game without the fight orgs and also they fail to understand how much of commitment does it require to run an org yourself. There is no point to give shit to org owners when they don't deserve it. Best you could achieve that way is the org owner giving up and you will be thinking in a while "where to send my XXXk ID fighter, there aren't any XXXk ID orgs anymore". With all those billions of tycoon cash floating around, I was never able to understand people that negotiate contracts with newer ID orgs. Only thing I do negotiate with them is the inactivity clause, because my fighters have suffered not once or twice by org owner disappearing. When you get to fight in a PPV org, then you are free to negotiate better contracts for your fighters. But what is the difference if you fight for 1/1/1 or 500/500/500 or 3k/3k/3k at a new ID org? For your fighter it is nothing, but for an org owner there is huge difference, since if he has all fighters on 3k/3k/3k, he will be losing money from the first events, making it hard to sign new fighters, book arenas for more events and also putting work into an org and losing money from it kinda kills your motivation.

 

I think the same dude contacted me last night looking for financial help, so I doubt that he was being cheap by offering you 500/500/500, just that is the best he could offer. As a matter of fact, that's the approximate worth of a new fighter's hype and pop. I mean, no one got rich by fighting in ID orgs, so aim to have fun there - the big money comes from the PPV orgs. :)

Sometimes some folks have millions and you offer them a contract/sponsorship or whatever and they don't even bother to reject it or they just screw the person over by hittin em in the face coz they think they own this game coz they ve ben here for a much longer time or the other way round  some other rich org owner tries to exploit the newbies by offerin crap money or making them a hype farm, what they fail to grasp is without those new players they will have to go and play with their balls instead of this game coz it s not just them who are holding it together it s also those newbies try hard to be a part of this game and community. But I gotta admit that mostly folks here are very helpful, well my experience except a few shitty encounters.


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#29 Warwynd

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Posted 15 January 2018 - 04:53 AM

For what it's worth Carver, I apologize to you as well, for my comment on your post. Although I don't think you quoted me 100% accurately. I believe my exact quote was, "it sounds like you're full of shit" or something like that. In any rate. I do apologize and I am now officially done hijacking this thread. Sorry for that as well.


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#30 BigLarry

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Posted 15 January 2018 - 07:15 AM

For what it's worth Carver, I apologize to you as well, for my comment on your post. Although I don't think you quoted me 100% accurately. I believe my exact quote was, "it sounds like you're full of shit" or something like that. In any rate. I do apologize and I am now officially done hijacking this thread. Sorry for that as well.

No hard feelings man, all s good, cheers


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