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#1 aylib

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Posted 23 September 2018 - 03:38 AM

Fighter got rocked early 2nd round (determined/heart TotT) and I dont see him recovering, just winning the fight via decision. Have you seen anything like that, where a fighter gets rocked early and there is nothing to show that he has recovered? Almost 9 minutes later he wins.

 

I've seen numerous fights ending without fighter recovering, but not one where one hasn't recovered for 9 minutes, especially with a determined/heart hidden.

 

Is this an error/glitch?

 

http://www.mmatycoon...php?FTID=933642


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#2 jjsquirrel

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Posted 23 September 2018 - 05:24 AM

No have not seen that, but it looks funny that he is "dominating the fight" just a few lines below where he is rocked.

 

There is nothing about him still being or wobbly legs or similar so looks like he did recover but it wasn't reported. Could it be he recovered in the round pause and that doesn't get into the fight log?


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#3 Warwynd

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Posted 23 September 2018 - 05:35 AM

No have not seen that, but it looks funny that he is "dominating the fight" just a few lines below where he is rocked.

 

There is nothing about him still being or wobbly legs or similar so looks like he did recover but it wasn't reported. Could it be he recovered in the round pause and that doesn't get into the fight log?

 

This would be my guess right here.


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#4 aylib

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Posted 23 September 2018 - 11:05 AM

That would be unlike a determined/heart fighter to take 4+ minutes to recover though, correct?


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#5 RegularJohn

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Posted 23 September 2018 - 11:57 AM

Closest thing I can think of is this fight <http://www.mmatycoon...php?FTID=925881> where my boy got rocked within seconds, never formally recoreverd, landed more overall strikes than his opponent for like 7+ minutes but eventually got KOed, still having "wobbly legs" after all that time. That guy wasn't "Determined" though.

 

But it doesn't seem to be an error IMO, just a special, somewhat rare circumstance where a guy gets rocked and doesn't "officially" recovers but manages to keep fighting for a much longer time than "rocked" fighters usually do.


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Posted 23 September 2018 - 03:53 PM

Seen it a million times.  I think immediately after fighter is rocked there is a "heart roll" and if successful right away it doesn't show that he's recovered.

 

 

http://www.mmatycoon....php?FID=118690

 

Would happen to Ben Stone on the regular.  There's a lot of fights to sift through, but there's more than a few examples of that happening in just his career alone.


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Posted 23 September 2018 - 05:01 PM

Are you saying that that fighters heart is likely to be so good as to recover immediately?

Also, what was Stone's confidence like, as I see a submission to strikes loss, which I assume points to heart/confidence.


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Posted 23 September 2018 - 06:10 PM

Are you saying that that fighters heart is likely to be so good as to recover immediately?

Also, what was Stone's confidence like, as I see a submission to strikes loss, which I assume points to heart/confidence.

 

Essentially.  Or he just got a successful heart roll after rocked... some fighters do recover immediately after rocked.  If you roll successful heart roll it "activates heart" and then they start fighting more successfully/aggressively.

 

 

btw Sub (strikes) is just flavor text for TKO loss.  Means nothing to heart or any other skill.  No different than when you get a lucky TDWP submission roll or a Knockout Flying Knee.  Flavor.

 

 

He had heart, confidence, KO power, 143 IQ, only thing missing was chin.  I relied to heavily on rock and recover tactics due to his heart to protect his chin.


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Posted 23 September 2018 - 10:49 PM

 

Essentially.  Or he just got a successful heart roll after rocked... some fighters do recover immediately after rocked.  If you roll successful heart roll it "activates heart" and then they start fighting more successfully/aggressively.

 

 

btw Sub (strikes) is just flavor text for TKO loss.  Means nothing to heart or any other skill.  No different than when you get a lucky TDWP submission roll or a Knockout Flying Knee.  Flavor.

 

 

He had heart, confidence, KO power, 143 IQ, only thing missing was chin.  I relied to heavily on rock and recover tactics due to his heart to protect his chin.

Interesting tactic.


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Posted 01 October 2018 - 05:59 PM

Interesting tactic.

 

 

Conservative.  Should of gambled more and went really high damage.  Chin was so bad felt like it was safer to put him on high counter, let him get rocked, watch heart activate and start kicking ass on his own.


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Posted 05 October 2018 - 02:29 PM

I had this fight today where my fighter who was set high to break clinch actually scored a knockdown in the clinch but the fight resumed in the clinch position, surely a clinch should be broken when you take a knee...

http://www.mmatycoon...php?FTID=943187
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#12 GBK16

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 07:32 PM

I had this fight today where my fighter who was set high to break clinch actually scored a knockdown in the clinch but the fight resumed in the clinch position, surely a clinch should be broken when you take a knee...

http://www.mmatycoon...php?FTID=943187

Not in the instance shown - "Three drops Two onto one knee with a big uppercut from the clinch! Two is propped up by the cage and works his way back to his feet!"

 

Basically the Clinch's version of your guy waving him back to his feet essentially


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Posted 09 October 2018 - 09:24 PM

Fighter has only 1 fight, yet if you look at sub completion % it is showing erroneous data:

 

http://mmatycoon.com....php?fid=340009


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Posted 10 October 2018 - 11:25 AM

Fighter has only 1 fight, yet if you look at sub completion % it is showing erroneous data:
 
http://mmatycoon.com....php?fid=340009


You arent reading the stats in the correct way, i guess.

It says 2 sub attempts(1 successful) = 50% sub landing rate.

In his only fight he tried a sub two times, with the second being successful.
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Posted 10 October 2018 - 11:54 AM

You arent reading the stats in the correct way, i guess.

It says 2 sub attempts(1 successful) = 50% sub landing rate.

In his only fight he tried a sub two times, with the second being successful.

On the defence side though it says the same thing, despite him not having had a Submission attempt against him, nor having one be successful.


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Posted 10 October 2018 - 09:43 PM

On the defence side though it says the same thing, despite him not having had a Submission attempt against him, nor having one be successful.

Right. One fight cant have two successful submissions.

 

Unless its Air Khabib tapping Conor and emasculating Dilon all in one sitting.


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#17 aylib

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Posted 20 October 2018 - 06:00 PM

Another one here:

http://www.mmatycoon....php?fid=338300

No sub losses, yet showing 10% success rate against.
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Posted 20 October 2018 - 07:41 PM

I remember reading that the "against" stats are wrong and have been for a long time. I never even look at those and I take the offensive stats with a grain of salt too.


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Posted 20 October 2018 - 11:09 PM

Sorry, I just mis-posted something..
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#20 aylib

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 02:06 PM

I remember reading that the "against" stats are wrong and have been for a long time. I never even look at those and I take the offensive stats with a grain of salt too.


Good to know; I knew that at times against stats were blank, but random numbers are new-ish to me.
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